I should like to confirm what the hon. member for Winnipeg South Centre has just said about the sympathetic ear given by the Prime Minister to appeals in connection with this matter. The Prime Minister gave me an interview similar to the one referred t-o by the hon. member, and likewise made it clear that the door would not be closed in connection with this matter. I may also confirm what the hon. member has just said about the vice-president of his own organization, the brotherhood of railway trainmen. He told me of the sympathetic hearing that was given when he saw the Prime Minister just before the Prime Minister left for overseas. That is good, but the men concerned want more than sympathy; they want action; they want their pensions.