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July 15, 1947

PRIVILEGE

MR. LACOMBE-REFERENCE TO ITEM PUBLISHED

in "le Canada" Mr. LIC.UORI LACOMBE (Laval-Two Mountains): On a question of privilege, I wish to refer to an item published in the Montreal newspaper Le Canada. It is entitled, "The R.C.M.P. Is Called". The newspaper continues: Mr. Liguori Lacombe, Canadian party, Laval-Two Mountains, a good friend of Mr. Maurice Duplessis seems to have lost faith altogether in the provincial police. Le Canada knows full well that I have, for the provincial police, as much admiration as for the R.C.M.P. Making up such a base false report is a proof of pitiably bad faith. Le Canada makes fun of the victims of Saint-Eustache-sur-le-Lac and surrounding district, where the owners of property on the shores of the lake of Two Mountains have lost more than a million dollars besides having their furniture, verandahs and other exterior furnishings stolen from their homes.
LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal
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Mr. SPEAKER:

Order! I beg the hon.

member to please note that according to the rules of the house, one must be brief on a question of privilege.

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Liguori Lacombe

Independent
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Mr. LACOMBE:

Will you kindly speak

louder, Mr. Speaker? I cannot hear you.

Privilege-Mr. Coldwell

(Translation):

Mr. Speaker, I do not understand, because I cannot hear you.

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal
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Mr. SPEAKER:

I asked the hon, member to note that according to the rules of :tihe house, a question of privilege must be presented as briefly as possible.

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Liguori Lacombe

Independent
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Mr. LACOMBE:

Mr. Speaker, I know

of an hon. member to the right who spoke half an hour on a question of privilege. I know you for a fair and impartial man and . . .

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Go ahead.

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Liguori Lacombe

Independent
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. LACOMBE:

It was Le Canada itself

who provoked this previous call on the police for the protection of the victims of the flood, who have had their properties pilfered by five or six hundred bandits coming from no one knows where. The lakes and navigable stream belong to the federal government who themselves authorize the raising of the water level when allowing firms to build dams under their benevolent supervision.

This is the reason why I asked the Right Hon. the Minister of Justice (Mr. Ilsley) for help from the R.C.M.P., because the provincial police could not cope with the situation.

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PRIVILEGE

MR. COLDWELL-REFERENCE TO REPORT IN MONTREAL "GAZETTE"

Mr. M. .J. COLDWELL (Rosetown-Biggar): Mr. Speaker, I rise to a question of privilege. In today's Montreal Gazette there appears an article written by the Gazette staff correspondent which is headed: C.C.F. said worst offenders in wholesale M.P. print-grab. Utilization of the public printing bureau by M.P.'s-notably C.C.F.-as a means of churning out election and political propaganda at public expense, underlies recommendations for sweeping changes in procedure contained in a report tabled in the Commons today by the joint Senate-Commons committee on printing. The brief report is framed in unsensational language and gives little hint that a number of flagrant breaches of the privileges accorded members of parliament of securing printed copies of their addresses were encountered. I wish to say that members of parliament who order reprints pay for them at the rate laid down by the printing bureau and approved by this house. This is a libel on the whole parliament, although my own party is particularly mentioned. I wish to draw it to the attention of the house.
LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal
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Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

I should like to say just one word. I agree with my hon. friend in what he says as to the privilege of hon. members having their speeches reprinted, but I hope he will agree with me that hon. members have gone much' further than that in what they have expected the printing bureau to do and in what they have had the bureau do. They have not confined the reprinting to the reprinting of a speech but have arranged for a printed1 cover, for photographs, headings, and the like which have nothing whatever to do with reprinting the speech. May I also say this, that frequently speeches have been reprinted with parts of the speech altogether omitted without giving any indication that this has been done. That I think is entirely wrong and should not be permitted.

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Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
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Mr. COLDWELL:

That is a matter for the house to decide. May I say, sir, that if covers and photographs are permitted, members are entitled to ask for them if they pay for that privilege. As a matter of fact that has always been done by members who have ordered their reprints done in that way. It is merely to make them attractive. It seems to me that the attempt is being made to make reprinted speeches as unattractive and as unreadable as possible.

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Ralph Melville Warren

Liberal
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Mr. WARREN:

I think hon. members are losing sight of the most important point in this connection. I do not think the privileges of this house allow or should allow a member of parliament to strike out parts of a speech that is reprinted from Hansard.

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Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
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Mr. KNOWLES:

We do not.

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Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
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Mr. COLDWELL:

I agree with that.

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Ralph Melville Warren

Liberal
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Mr. WARREN:

Why should any member be allowed to take an extract from his own speech and another extract from another speech and have that published as the official Hansard report?

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Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)
Member File Biography @ PARLINFO

Mr. COLDWELL:

I agree with that.

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July 15, 1947