April 8, 1948

LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Is it the pleasure of the house to adopt the motion, and to give permission to the right hon. minister to withdraw his amendment?

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Agreed.

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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

The Secretary of State for External Affairs, seconded by the Minister of Justice, has moved that the amendment be amended by adding thereto the following words: "On Tuesday, and the latter having precedence on Friday".

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Thomas Langton Church

Progressive Conservative

Mr. CHURCH:

When this motion is passed will it rule out any discussion of the railway rates situation? We should have an opportunity to discuss that.

Mr. ST. LAURENT: No.

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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Is it the pleasure of the house to adopt the motion?

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Gordon Graydon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. GRAYDON:

As a protest, it is carried on division only.

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Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

Put it again as amended.

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Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. CHEVRIER:

Do you want that recorded in Hansard?

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. CHEVRIER:

It will be.

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

The motion remains-

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Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

Put it.

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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

-as amended. Is it the pleasure of the house to carry the main motion as amended?

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Carried.

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Gordon Graydon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. GRAYDON:

On division.

Motion as amended agreed to on division.

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INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS

INVESTIGATION, CONCILIATION AND SETTLEMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DISPUTES


Hon. HUMPHREY MITCHELL (Minister of Labour) moved the second reading of Bill No. 195, to provide for the investigation, conciliation and settlement of industrial disputes.


CCF

Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. ANGUS MacINNIS (Vancouver East):

Mr. Speaker, I wish to say only a few words before the bill is given second) reading. The

Industrial Relations

principle and purpose of the bill is to lay down procedure for the resolving of industrial disputes, and as a means of fulfilling that purpose I would say the bill is timely. If, however, we are to enact a measure of this kind, and if it is to receive the support of employers and employees and the community, the measure as finally passed must be justly and equitably administered1. I mention that because in my opinion labour legislation now on the statute books is not equitably administered as between employers and employees.

The principle of the bill is that every employee has a right to be a member of a trade union and to participate in the activities thereof, and that every employer has the right to be a member of an employers organization and to participate in the activities thereof. No exception is made for any reason whatsoever, once an employees organization is certified as the bargaining agency. I understand that the law as it stands at present provides that an organization can be certified after a vote has been taken to determine whether the majority of the employees in that organization want the organization to act as its bargaining agency.

I would draw the attention of the house to the fact that in connection with the Canadian seamen's union, a vote was taken among the employees of the Sarnia Steamship Company and the Colonial Steamship Company and, if my recollection serves me aright, the vote carried, ninety-three per cent of the employees voting for the union. Yet these companies have refused to bargain collectively with their employees. Another steamship company, according to my information, has refused the Department of Labour the right to take a vote of the employees of that company.

This legislation can be effective only if it is administered without fear or favour, whether it be workers or employers who are concerned. There is no other way in which we can have law and order, in this or indeed in any other country. As I said the other evening, I am afraid the government is paying too much attention to representations made to it by employers organizations, and is not administering the law equitably in this country.

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Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MITCHELL:

I deny that, without equivocation.

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April 8, 1948