When my hon. friend gets to drafting a bill of rights I think he will have to desist from quite so active participation in debates in the house.
I want to say a word or two about one remark made by the hon. member for Spadina (Mr. Croll). The hon. member made a statement with which I disagree, and I wish simply to state my disagreement without giving my reasons. He said:
There are amongst us many minorities, racial, religious, economic and political minorities, who are profoundly upset at the present state of freedom in Canada. They see a growing spirit of intolerance manifesting itself in not just isolated cases here and there, but in mass action against w'hole groups.
I just wish to say that I think a better case can be made for the proposition that we are becoming more tolerant in Canada than for the proposition that we are becoming more intolerant. And without going into this matter any further, and prolonging the debate, I should just like to say there is a great deal of truth in what was said by the hon. member for Macleod (Mr. Hansell) when, in closing his remarks, he said:
You can write these things into a constitution, but putting them on paper and making them law does not preserve them. They are principles of life, and they operate as an organism operates; as life operates. This government is not going to take them from us; perhaps no one in thisliouse is going to take them from us. If you want to write them into law, all right; but that does not preserve them and it does not give them to us.
I think we ought to quit talking as if this were a country' of tyranny and despotism, where people are deprived of their liberties. This is one of the freest countries in the world. Someone has talked about our embarrassment before the united nations by reason of certain laws and regulations we have in this country. We have not any cause for embarrassment in the united nations. One does not wish to make invidious comparisons between this and other countries. But take almost any country in the world you like, and you will have a country where there is far greater and far more infraction of personal liberties, human rights and fundamental freedoms than in this Dominion of Canada.
Why is that so? Because, just as the hon. member for Macleod has said, these principles are principles of life. They operate as an organism operates, as life operates.
Those are the only observations I wish to make.
Motion (Mr. Ilsley) as amended agreed to.
Subtopic: FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS
Sub-subtopic: OBLIGATIONS UNDER UNITED NATIONS CHARTER-APPOINTMENT OF JOINT COMMITTEE