November 1, 1949

LIB

John Ewen Sinclair

Liberal

Mr. Sinclair:

Where is your privilege?

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Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

I say that in all kindness to the hon. member.

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LIB

John Ewen Sinclair

Liberal

Mr. Sinclair:

Where is your privilege?

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SC

Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

I am challenging the hon. member to produce the evidence of Mr. Kennedy thanking Jan Lakeman or any other communist for his support.

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LIB

John Ewen Sinclair

Liberal

Mr. Sinclair:

That is not privilege.

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LIB

John Decore

Liberal

Mr. Decore:

I accept the challenge.

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SC

Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

I challenge the hon. member.

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LIB

John Decore

Liberal

Mr. Decore:

I accept the challenge. At this time may I quote from the Edmonton Journal of March 22, 1938. This is what it says:

Others who addressed the cheering crowd at the Kennedy headquarters were N. B. James, M.L.A. for Acadia; Leslie Morris, Toronto, national secretary of the communist party of Canada; Hon. E. C. Manning, provincial secretary; Hon. Lucien Maynard, minister of municipal affairs.

What a grand and glorious victory that was!

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SC

Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

On a question of privilege, I challenge the hon. member to substantiate by evidence that his statement is correct. I state exactly what he said, "that publicly at that meeting in Edmonton in 1938, Mr. Kennedy thanked Jan Lakeman for his support."

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LIB

John Ewen Sinclair

Liberal

Mr. Sinclair:

That is not a question of privilege.

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SC

Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

I challenge his honesty on the statement he has made. He has answered my challenge by evading, as he always does.

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LIB

John Decore

Liberal

Mr. Decore:

I am referring to newspaper clippings.

The Budget-Mr. Decore

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SC

Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

A newspaper clipping does not mean anything.

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Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

Don't forget that Tim Buck supported Mackenzie King in 1945.

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LIB

John Decore

Liberal

Mr. Decore:

At no time in the political history of Canada, to my knowledge, did any political party,-

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

He supported the C.C.F. in 1949.

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LIB

John Decore

Liberal

Mr. Decore:

-whether it be Liberal, Conservative, C.C.F. or any other political group, celebrate together with the communist chiefs an election victory with such enthusiasm and gusto as happened in Edmonton East in 1938.

In view of what I have said, may I humbly make this suggestion to the hon. member for Red Deer (Mr. Shaw) and the hon. member for Peace River (Mr. Low), that they should be the last of all people to impute communism to someone else. It seems to me that people living in glass houses should always undress in the dark.

Most of us who know anything about the communist leaders in this country know something about their tactics. If you dare to disagree with a communist on his political views you are immediately branded as a fascist or a war-monger. Should anyone dare to disagree with some of these politicians to whom I am referring, they are immediately branded as a communist or next to it. Although they profess to hold divergent views it is my submission that their tactics are the same.

The suggestion that the Liberal party in Canada, or that a Liberal candidate in Alberta, entered into any kind of understanding with the communist leaders is of course nonsense. We of the Liberal party believe in combating communism not necessarily in the manner and style prescribed and proposed by our Social Credit friends. We believe that by showing that our democratic way of life here in Canada is superior to what they have in Russia we can convince people far more effectively.

In the 1945 election there were in Canada 119,000 communist votes. On June 27 there were slightly over 32,000. Something happened to the 80,000 communist votes, in fact it is only a little over one-sixth of the 1945 election. I believe that if any party or any group has shown the way to combat communism in Canada, the Liberals certainly have.

At this time, Mr. Speaker, I should like to say a word or two to my French-speaking Canadian friends.

(Translation):

As a representative of western Canada, I am very pleased to meet here so many French-Canadian members from the eastern part of the country.

The Budget-Mr. Argue

There are a great many French-speaking Canadians in my constituency and I am happy to tell you that they wholeheartedly supported me at the last election.

Fortunately, there are only two official languages in this country, French and English. If other languages are officially recognized, I should be tempted to use them all.

We in western Canada are deeply anxious that unity should prevail in this country and judging from what I have observed during the short time I have been here, our nation is destined to become even more powerful and united under the leadership of our great leader, the Right Hon. Louis S. St. Laurent.

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CCF

Hazen Robert Argue

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. H. R. Argue (Assiniboia):

Mr. Speaker, the budget presented to this house by the Minister of Finance (Mr. Abbott) the other evening was not essentially a new one. In the main it was the budget presented March last, prepared for re-presentation. On June 27 the people of Canada endorsed the resolutions contained in the original budget. The people of Canada endorsed the tax proposals of the Liberal government, and to that extent I do not wish to take exception to the present budget. But if the forecasts and opinions contained in the budget of the Minister of Finance of March last were not justified by events, then to that extent the budget of March was not endorsed by the Canadian people.

One may look through the budget of last March with great care, but nowhere in it will one find a suggestion that Canada would in a few months be facing a very serious trade crisis. On the contrary, the Minister of Finance took a very optimistic point of view. I might recall the statements which the minister made in referring to European countries when he said:

Their own ability to buy is increasing, and in the meantime is being supplemented from this side of the Atlantic.

Then the further statement:

The Canadian government has taken and will continue to take all feasible steps to encourage the expansion of British trade with Canada.

These statements, and others like them, served only one purpose. They served to lull the people of Canada into a false sense of security in relation to our trade prospects. One cabinet minister after another went back and forth across this country telling the electorate that we would not be facing a trade crisis; that the C.C.F. were always talking blue ruin. It must have been a shock indeed to the electorate to find that within twenty days after the election we were facing a very severe and very real trade crisis, a trade crisis to the extent that our best customer,

Great Britain, announced that she was cutting by 25 per cent imports of goods from dollar countries. The Minister of Trade and Commerce (Mr. Howe) is reported in the Regina Leader-Post of June 18 under the headline:

Howe Tells B.C. Liberals he is Stuck for Something to Sell

as having said:

Canada's post-war domestic economy is expanding so fast, Trade Minister Howe said Friday, that he is stuck for something to sell on the overseas market.

The Minister of Agriculture (Mr. Gardiner) is reported in the Leader-Post of June 24 as saying at Qu'Appelle:

There is no evidence to support the contention of M. J. Coldwell, C.C.F. leader, that Canada is losing the British market for food, Agriculture Minister Gardiner said here Thursday night.

I hold in my hand a quotation taken from a radio speech delivered by the hon. member for Rosetown-Biggar (Mr. Coldwell), the leader of this party, on May 13, entitled "Coming Crisis in Trade",

Our best customers have always been Britain and western Europe, yet we are rapidly losing these markets today. Last year Canadian exports to Britain fell off by $64 million. In the first three months of this year exports in Britain dropped still more, from $175 million to $139 million. We have not suffered from this trade crisis yet, but in a few months we shall feel the full impact.

How very true was that prophecy by the leader of this group, that while we had not suffered up until that time from the trade crisis, nevertheless in a few months we should feel the full impact. Just two months from that date, almost to the day, the announcement was made that we would be losing 25 per cent of our market in the United Kingdom. Apparently to some extent the Minister of Agriculture (Mr. Gardiner) has changed his mind, because he was reported in the Montreal Gazette of October 1-

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

That was not agricultural products; it was 25 per cent of our dollars.

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CCF

Hazen Robert Argue

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Argue:

A reduction of 25 per cent in British purchases in dollar countries.

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November 1, 1949