June 7, 1950

LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Howe:

I believe I can anticipate the

next question. I can assure my friend that it will not be used as a house for the secretary.

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John George Diefenbaker

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

That is somewhat different from the general picture a few weeks ago. What does the minister mean by divided opinion as to the use of the coach house.

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?

Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

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John George Diefenbaker

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

That is a proper question. The government assumes the responsibility for this matter. What does the minister mean by that?

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Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Fournier (Hull):

If the hon. member reads the local newspapers he will see that one newspaper advocates demolishing the building, while the other newspaper puts up an argument in favour of keeping it. There are outstanding citizens who are interested in this development of the national capital. I have met people who had one opinion, and others who had a different opinion on the subject. I cannot give names here. I believe the government, in its good judgment-

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?

Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

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LIB

Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Fournier (Hull):

-will make a proper decision. I shall let my friend know what it is.

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James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

Apparently it is the good judgment of the newspapers.

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Gordon Knapman Fraser

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fraser:

Can the minister say what the approximate cost of operation and maintenance will be per year, or has that been estimated?

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LIB

Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Fournier (Hull):

I would not want to anticipate the debate on the bill. Public works will have control of the maintenance and repair of the buildings; the other part, the maintenance of the grounds, will be under the federal district commission. As to the monetary part, I think that is under the Minister of Finance.

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James Arthur Ross

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Ross (Souris):

What was the original cost of this building?

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Official Residence for Prime Minister

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LIB

Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Fournier (Hull):

I am informed that the judgment of the exchequer court three or four years ago set the cost at $140,000.

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John George Diefenbaker

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

Is this estimate given by the minister, with the $100,000 leeway given by the member for Calgary West, in addition to the original cost?

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Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Fournier (Hull):

Why, certainly.

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Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming:

Will the bill cover the cost of furnishings and the maintenance of the grounds?

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LIB

Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Fournier (Hull):

We are a little embarrassed as to the furnishings. We have to put up the house first in order to see what furnishings we shall have in it. I have no estimate on the furnishings. The architect is still working on that phase of the project.

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LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. Mitchell:

I just want to say this to my friend-

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Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming:

I asked the minister, Mr. Chairman,-

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LIB

Joseph-Alfred Dion (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

The Chairman:

Order. The member for Eglinton has the floor.

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Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming:

I asked whether the bill that is to be introduced will cover the cost of furnishings and the maintenance of the grounds. I believe it was made apparent in the previous discussion that it is proposed to provide the minister with a furnished house, not merely the building and grounds. Will the bill cover that, as well as the maintenance of the grounds?

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June 7, 1950