March 21, 1951


Item agreed to. Special- 624. To provide for costs to be incurred in the planning and construction of emergency works to safeguard against the dangers of floods in the Red River valley and the Winnipeg area generally, under an agreement or agreements with the province of Manitoba which shall provide that Canada shall meet 75 per cent of the costs of such works, excluding the costs of land, and that Manitoba, or its municipalities or residents, shall meet the remaining cost, including the cost of land-further amount required, $1,353,000.


CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

Has there been any discussion between the federal government and the government of Manitoba with respect to the position of homes in Winnipeg behind the dikes? I refer to homes between the dikes that have been or are being built, and the river.

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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Howe:

Those are not matters for the federal government. The agreement between the federal government and the province provides that the federal government will build dikes on land provided by the province -which we have done. The federal government does not have anything to do with houses or property outside the dikes.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

I asked the question because I had understood, subject to correction, that Premier Campbell indicated to the Manitoba legislature last fall that consideration would be given to discussing this matter with the municipal governments concerned and also with the federal government. I take it there has been no request by Manitoba for any such discussion.

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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Howe:

I would not say that I positively remember that; but in any event considerations of that sort are excluded from the responsibilities of the Winnipeg diking board, to which this government is a contributor.

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Item agreed to.


DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS


Payments to or for veterans and dependents- 641. To authorize payment to David Bruce Steele, under the Pension Act, of such benefits as would be awarded under the said act if the disabling condition had been incurred by him during service in world war II, $1,050. 1512 HOUSE OF Supply-Citizenship and Immigration Mr. Cardiff: What is the nature of the claim under this item?


LIB

Hugues Lapointe (Minister of Veterans Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. Hugues Lapointe (Minister of Veierans Affairs):

Mr. Chairman, these two items are to authorize compensation for what might be called medical accidents which occurred in hospitals of the department, in the course of treatment of the veterans whose names appear in this and the following item. Although it was not established that the injuries suffered by these two veterans while being treated were the result of negligence of the department, nevertheless the director general of the treatment services considered there was reasonable doubt, and recommended that these men be awarded the same amount of compensation as would have been awarded to them for similar disability suffered in the service. This was done last year, and payment was made last year by order in council. However, it was observed that a long established practice of paying lifelong pensions should be done under a statute or by special appropriation under the act, and that is what we are doing this year.

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Lewis Elston Cardiff

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Cardiff:

I was not objecting to it at all. I was trying to get consideration for a case that I had brought to the minister's attention some time ago. I have always claimed that no law can operate without some flexibility given to those who are operating it. That is why I wanted to know what this particular item was for.

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Item agreed to. DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION Indian affairs branch-Education- 579. Grants to residential schools-further amount required, $60,668.


CCF

Robert Ross (Roy) Knight

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knight:

I am interested in votes for education. The other day I was pleased to note a vote for education for the town of Rimouski, and I am glad to support a grant for education in any place in the dominion.

I see some money here being given to the Indian schools. When I was speaking on the Indian bill the other day I paid some tribute to the work of those institutions, and I am glad to repeat it. I do want to repeat also that I think that it is best where possible, and particularly for Indian children, that they should, where such schools are available, attend schools in their own districts, whether these schools are run on a denominational or on a public school basis.

My reason of course is simply this, as I said before, that contact can be constantly maintained as between the child and its parents, and that the educational process which goes on in the school can be conveyed daily to the home.

I know the very fine work that these residential schools are doing. I had an opportunity not very long ago to look over one of the residential schools in the constituency of the hon. member for Rosthern. It was the school at Duck Lake. The gentleman who was in charge then-and he was the principal-* said to me-it may be the same man today- that where there was inefficiency in many schools of that type, that inefficiency was due to the lack of money available. He asked me at that time-and I know he has asked other hon. members of parliament-to make a plea so that these residential schools could have the money with which they may proceed to do even better work than they are doing now.

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Item agreed to. Resolutions reported, read the second time and concurred in.


LIB

Louis Stephen St-Laurent (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. St. Laurent:

Before you leave the chair, Mr. Speaker, may I have the unanimous consent of the house to suggest that as soon as we dispose of this you leave the chair until eight o'clock so that we may be available at eight o'clock to attend in the other place for royal assent to such legislation as will have been passed by that time.

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CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Coldwell:

Mr. Speaker, last night I made protest about the long speech that was made, but I am very happy that the agricultural estimates are through, and I shall be very glad to be here at eight o'clock.

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LIB

Louis Stephen St-Laurent (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. St. Laurent:

Unless we put the bill

through we would have to wait on the pleasure of the hon. [DOT] gentlemen.

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

I take it that Mr. Speaker will not be required to look at the clock for perhaps five minutes or so.

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WAYS AND MEANS

LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Hon. Douglas Abbott (Minister of Finance) moved

that the house go into committee of ways and means.

Motion agreed to and the house went into committee, Mr. Beaudoin in the chair.

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March 21, 1951