May 1, 1951

SC

Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

I am acquainted with a lot of other doctors who are prescribing vitamin E in a form which is more expensive than that mentioned by the Minister of National Revenue. I could agree with him; but the fact is we are not making that known to the people of Canada. The result is that they go out and pay exorbitant prices to physicians and druggists across the country. It seems to me that the request to repeal the sales tax on that form of treatment for heart ailment should be given favourable consideration.

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. Pouliot:

What is the difference in price between vitamin E and vitamin B?

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SC

Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

I do not believe I am expert enough to say. There is, I believe, considerable difference. I have bought vitamin B in various forms, and I know pretty well what the price is. I cannot say anything about vitamin E; but the information I have comes from an association which has furnished us with a petition in which it appeals to the House of Commons to repeal the sales tax on vitamin E which is used so extensively in the treatment of heart ailments.

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. Pouliot:

I shall tell the hon. member something about the circulars we receive from associations. One day I was urged by an association to make representations in the house. I sent them a copy of Hansard in which there was a speech of mine to the same effect. Then they apologized: and published my speech-all of which shows that these associations know nothing whatsoever of what goes on in the house. It is precisely because we are not well informed by those people that I expected to get some illumination from the hon. member.

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CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Coldwell:

I am pleased to see these two drugs mentioned in the resolution. I agree that there are others which should be considered. I do not know the names of some of them, but I am familiar with one called B-Plex.

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LIB

James Joseph McCann (Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. McCann:

That is just a trade name.

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CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Coldwell:

It is prescribed by doctors, and it is very expensive. If patients take such drugs, the bills run up to $30 or $40 a month. It seems to me the list might be considerably lengthened. I should like it to be understood that I am not complaining; the inclusion of these two is a good start, but I should like to see others added. That is my plea to the minister.

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. Pouliot:

The most exorbitant profit is made on gin, because it costs the producer about 15 or 20 cents and is sold at $5 a bottle.

Excise Tax Act

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LIB

James Sinclair (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Mr. Sinclair:

I have answered the question as to drugs oni two or three occasions already this evening. Drugs which are expensive and which have been shown to be of real value and are accepted and prescribed by the medical profession are considered each year by the department, with the advice of the Department of National Health and Welfare. The Minister of National Revenue is of course a doctor himself. This year we have added these two to our present list. If the use of the drugs mentioned by hon. members becomes widespread by the medical profession, and is recommended in prescriptions, the matter will be considered before the budget is prepared next year.

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LIB

Louis-René Beaudoin (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The Deputy Chairman:

Shall the resolution

carry?

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Some hon. Members:

Carried.

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Some hon. Members:

No.

Progress reported.

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BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

LIB

Walter Edward Harris (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration)

Liberal

Mr. Harris (Grey-Bruce):

Mr. Speaker, tomorrow we shall continue this debate, and if it is concluded we will continue with the legislation- indicated- last evening.

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At eleven o'clock the house adjourned, without question put, pursuant to standing order.


APPENDIX

LEASED BASES AGREEMENT


The board decided to make the following recommendation : Taxation (a) That there be included in the proposed revised United States-Canadian double taxation convention, on a reciprocal basis, the exemption from Canadian income taxation (on income derived from outside Canada) of: (1) U.S. service personnel serving in Canada, (2) U.S. civilians employed by the U.S. government in Canada, (3) The wives and minor children of (1) and (2). (b) That, by an exchange of diplomatic notes, the provisions of article XVII of the leased bases agreement conferring the exemptions described in (a) above be cancelled as of the date of the coming into force of the proposed revised double taxation convention in a form justifying such cancellation. (c) That the exemption from Canadian income taxation, under article XVII of the leased bases agreement, of the following categories be discontinued by an exchange of notes: (1) U.S. contractors, or contractors ordinarily resident in the United States, in respect of their profits arising from work at the leased bases, (2) U.S. civilians employed by contractors at the leased bases, (3) The wives and minor children of (2). (d) That the foregoing be without prejudice to the remaining taxation exemptions conferred by article XVII of the agreement. Customs and Excise Exemptions (a) That the customs and excise exemptions accorded to contractor-owned equipment under the terms of article XIV (1) (a) of the leased bases agreement be suspended by an exchange of notes: (b) That it be agreed by exchange of notes that article XIV (1) (d) does not accord customs and/or excise exemptions in personal belongings and household effects of contractors and their U.S. employees (after first arrival) or customs and/or excise exemption on purchases in Canada, outside the leased areas, by U.S. military or civilian personnel, or their families: (c) That the U.S. authorities continue to exercise every precaution to prevent abuse of the customs and excise privileges enjoyed under the leased: bases agreement. Post Offices That it be agreed by exchange of notes that the U.S. military postal system in operation at the Newfoundland bases conform to the following stipulations: (a) That they provide military postal services only for U.S. military agencies, U.S. military personnel, authorized U.S. civilians, and their dependents, (b) That they dispatch mail only to the United States, its possessions and territories and its military postal installations, (c) That geographical locations be not indicated by date stamp or cancellation stamp. Jurisdiction (a) That the government of the United States, through an exchange of diplomatic notes, agree to waive its rights of jurisdiction under the leased bases agreement over Canadian citizens, other British subjects, and alien civilians other than those subject to U.S. military law by reason of their accompanying or serving with the U.S. forces. (b) (1) That the governments of the United States and of Canada, through an exchange of diplomatic notes, agree to suspend the exercise of their rights of jurisdiction under article IV of the leased bases agreement other than those waived by the U.S. government under (a) above, for a period of five years, and thereafter subject to six months' notification of termination, except that in the event of war or other emergency the suspension shall, on notification given by either government, cease to operate; (2) That the Canadian government, as a condition precedent to the waiver and suspension of the exercise of rights under article IV and to the extension to Newfoundland of an amended Visiting Forces (United States of America) Act, give satisfactory assurances that the U.S. officials in Newfoundland will have a degree of jurisdiction comparable to that which they now in fact exercise. In this connection, the U.S. section would regard the proposed letter from the government of Canada to the government of Newfoundland, with a reply from the Newfoundland government that jurisdictional conditions would remain substantially as now exercised, as the basis for satisfactory assurances to be given by the Canadian government. (c) That the Canadian government undertake to seek legislation to protect U.S. interests in security offences as envisaged by article V of the leased bases agreement. (dj That the Canadian government seek amendment to the Visiting Forces (United States of America) Act to provide for the compulsory attendance of witnesses required by U.S. service courts. (e) That either government should be free to raise through appropriate channels the matter of any difficulties arising out of the working of the foregoing jurisdictional arrangements.



Wednesday, May 2, 1951


May 1, 1951