June 8, 1951

CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

Can the minister tell us

what it is we are spending $77 on? It comes under the item that we now have before us, item 392.

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LIB

Robert Henry Winters (Minister of Resources and Development)

Liberal

Mr. Winters:

We are on item 391.

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LIB

Joseph-Alfred Dion (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

The Chairman:

We are on item 392.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

We are on item 392 and

the amount of $77 appears in the details about half way down the page.

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LIB
CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

What is that, the rotary

club, the Liberal association or what?

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John Sylvester Aloysius Sinnott

Liberal

Mr. Sinnott:

A C.C.F. union. That is

union dues.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

Are they deductible for

income tax purposes?

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LIB

Robert Henry Winters (Minister of Resources and Development)

Liberal

Mr. Winters:

It is membership fees for

people in the waterway resources division in the various engineering associations, the engineering institute and the professional institutes of engineers, and the like.

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Item agreed to. 394. To provide for studies and surveys of the Columbia river watershed in Canada, $381,095.


PC

Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Harkness:

This item is to provide

for studies and surveys of the Columbia river watershed in Canada. The people concerned are engineers and so forth. I see down below there is the sum of $79,000 for topographical surveys and $26,000 for bathymetric surveys, and $43,000 for drilling investigations. Then there is an item of $26,000 for other professional and special services. I wonder why it is that all these surveys are separate from the cost of the various engineers, technical officers and so

on, who are part of the department. Has this been done by means of extra contracts, or what is the explanation?

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LIB

Robert Henry Winters (Minister of Resources and Development)

Liberal

Mr. Winters:

Although this department

votes money, the surveys are carried out by the Department of Mines and Technical Surveys, or the Department of Public Works,

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PC

Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Harkness:

The money is paid to the

other departments, do you mean?

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PC

Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Harkness:

Is that done on a contract

basis, or do you just come to a private deal?

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Robert Henry Winters (Minister of Resources and Development)

Liberal

Mr. Winters:

The other departments do

it at cost for us, and we transfer the funds to them to carry out the work.

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CCF

Herbert Wilfred Herridge

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Herridge:

Do I understand that on

this item we must ask our questions of the Minister of Mines and Technical Surveys?

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Robert Henry Winters (Minister of Resources and Development)

Liberal

Mr. Winters:

No. We will answer questions with respect to administration so far as we are able to and, so far as possible, we will answer with regard to details of work. However, I am sure my colleague the Minister of Mines and Technical Surveys will give all that information, if he is asked, when his estimates are being considered.

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CCF

Herbert Wilfred Herridge

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Herridge:

This item is of great interest to British Columbia, and particularly my constituency. How long will it be before the studies will be completed, and at what points has drilling been undertaken on the Columbia with the idea of finding foundations for dam sites? What success has there been in drilling at these various points?

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George Prudham (Minister of Mines and Technical Surveys)

Liberal

Hon. George Prudham (Minister of Mines and Technical Surveys):

Mr. Chairman, I had that information here until about ten minutes ago, but seeing that time was running out I sent it back to my office. However, I shall be pleased to supply it when my estimates are before the committee.

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June 8, 1951