June 8, 1951

LIB

Robert Henry Winters (Minister of Resources and Development)

Liberal

Mr. Winters:

I can add that we contemplate the completion of the survey will take another two years.

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Item agreed to. Engineering and water resources branch- 395. To provide for studies and surveys of the Red river basin in Canada, $182,000.


CCF

William Scottie Bryce

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Bryce:

Would the minister tell us what has been done by way of work on the Red river. Is this being accomplished by the two governments, or only by ourselves? Is the American government co-operating with us in the work? I wonder if the minister

would tell us what is going on, so that the people in Winnipeg will know what is taking place.

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LIB

Robert Henry Winters (Minister of Resources and Development)

Liberal

Mr. Winters:

A considerable amount of work has been undertaken by this department on its own direct account and in cooperation with other departments to accumulate data in the Red river valley, and the other streams and rivers that contributed to the disastrous flooding a year ago.

We have acquired a staff in Winnipeg under the direction of Mr. G. L. MacKenzie, who is on loan to us. He is chief engineer of the prairie farm rehabilitation administration. Temporary space was obtained in the district engineer's office at Winnipeg, and later permanent accommodation was obtained from the provincial government at 221 Osborne street north. Recruiting of staff proceeded as need arose, and at the present time Mr. MacKenzie has a staff under him of sixteen, all but three of whom are engineering or technical personnel.

The work initiated and virtually complete as at this date includes the hydrographic survey of the Red river from Winnipeg to the international boundary and north from Winnipeg to lake Winnipeg. Analysis of hydrometric and meteorological data, flood records, river slopes and aerial photographs was carried on concurrently. The assistance of the Department of Mines and Technical Surveys was obtained to complete precise levelling operations, and this department also conducted surveys to develop the controls in the valley as a further step to contouring the area. The full co-operation of the greater Winnipeg dyking board, the Department of Public Works, the prairie farm rehabilitation administration and the United States geological survey has been obtained. In this connection Mr. MacKenzie and two members of his staff visited the corps of engineers office at St. Paul and were able to have very useful technical discussions so that the methods of carrying out hydraulic studies and other details would be correlated. At this conference it was determined that the improvement in the United States section of the basin would create no material change in the river regimen within the reasonable future.

The actual survey work has consisted in taking cross-sections of the river generally at 1,000-foot intervals with lesser intervals being used at some of the sharp bends. Extra sections were taken above and below all bridges. These cross-sections consist of taking soundings in the river at 20-foot intervals and the topography of the banks for a distance of 100 to 500 feet beyond the top of the

Supply-Resources and Development banks on both sides of the river. Information is also being obtained as to the nature of the bed of the river by means of probings. Certain cross-section information between Emerson and Morris was already available in the office of the district engineer, water resources division, at Winnipeg.

Information was secured regarding the hydraulic gradient of both the Red and Assiniboine rivers for various stages of water during this spring. Staff gauges were accordingly placed by Mr. MacKenzie's staff throughout the Red river from Emerson to lake Winnipeg and up the Assiniboine river to Headingly. The P.F.R.A. also established a number of gauges on the Assiniboine river from Headingly upstream.

Once the necessary surveys are complete, maps will be drawn on a scale of 600 feet to 1 inch with an accompanying profile on a horizontal scale of 1,000 feet to 1 inch, and most of the work during the coming year will consist in the preparation of plans and profiles from the information which has been gathered. The maintenance of one or two survey parties throughout most of the summer will be necessary to obtain additional data as the need for this information arises. Office studies will include investigation of possible river channel improvements, protective works, flood diversion schemes, storage or retardation possibilities, hydraulic elements and determinations of costs and benefits of various schemes or combinations of schemes. The prairie farm rehabilitation administration will be doing most of the survey work on the Assiniboine river. The dyking board has completed the Assiniboine river surveys within the city of Winnipeg. I think the danger is over for this spring.

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CCF

William Scottie Bryce

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Bryce:

I thank the minister for his explanation.

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Item agreed to. Progress reported.


BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

LIB

Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Fournier (Hull):

Monday we will take up Bill No. 322, respecting the Canada post office. Then we will move to go into supply, and call four or five departments; and proceed with the estimates of fisheries.

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PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

Are you not

going to go on with the Income Tax Act this year?

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PC

Percy Chapman Black

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Black (Cumberland):

Might I ask the minister what departments he proposes calling on Monday?

Supply-Resources and Development Mr. Fournier (Hull): I can give the hon. member a list. There are nine departments that have not been called, and subject to a change of mind I believe I would call defence production, trade and commerce, veterans affairs, post office, and citizenship and immigration.

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At eleven o'clock the house adjourned, without question put, pursuant to standing order. [The following items were passed in committee of supply]: DEPARTMENT OF RESOURCES AND DEVELOPMENT National parks branch- 383. Departmental administration, $381,223. 384. Branch administration, $22,780. National parks and historic sites services- 385. Administration, operation and maintenance, $3,153,594. 386. Construction or acquisition of buildings, works, land and new equipment, $4,186,704. 387. Grant to the Jack Miner migratory bird foundation, $5,000. 388. Grant in aid of the development of tne international peace garden in Manitoba, $15,000. Canadian wildlife service- 389. Wildlife resources conservation and development, including administration of the Migratory Birds Convention Act-administration, operation and maintenance, $311,092. National Museum of Canada- 390. Administration, operation and maintenance, $228,669. Engineering and water resources branch- 391. Branch administration, $65,410. Water resources division- Water resources division, including the administration of the dominion water power and irrigation acts, and including grant of $350 to the international executive council, world power conference- 392. Administration, operation and maintenance, $585,926. 393. Construction or acquisition of buildings, works, land and new equipment, $50,995. 394. To provide for studies and surveys of the Columbia river watershed in Canada, $381,095. 395. To provide for studies and surveys of the Red river basin in Canada, $182,000.



Monday, June 11, 1951


June 8, 1951