June 19, 1951


On the orders of the day:


PC

George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. George A. Drew (Leader of the Opposition):

In the absence of the hon.

member for Three Rivers (Mr. Balcer), I should like to direct a question to the Secretary of State or to his parliamentary assistant in connection with an order for return made on Monday, May 21, in connection with a question asked by the hon. member for Three Rivers. On June 14 the Secretary of State said, as reported at page 4068 of Hansard:

I shall make Inquiries and endeavour to expedite the return.

May I have an indication from that department as to when the return may be expected?

Topic:   INQUIRY FOR RETURN
Subtopic:   C. D. HOWE COMPANY LIMITED
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LIB

Louis Stephen St-Laurent (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. L. S. Si. Laurent (Prime Minister):

I will bring to the attention of

the Department of the Secretary of State the remarks made by the leader of the opposition. The Secretary of State is away this morning on other business, and he has no parliamentary assistant. I will communicate with the department and will try to ascertain when the return may be expected.

Topic:   INQUIRY FOR RETURN
Subtopic:   C. D. HOWE COMPANY LIMITED
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PC

George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

Through you, Mr. Speaker,

with the desire to expedite such business as is before the house, I would point out that it is highly desirable that orders for returns which have been standing for some time should be completed as soon as possible.

Topic:   INQUIRY FOR RETURN
Subtopic:   C. D. HOWE COMPANY LIMITED
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INCOME TAX ACT

LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Hon. Douglas Abbott (Minister of Finance) moved

the third reading of Bill No. 296, to amend, the Income Tax Act.

Topic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. J. M. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

I want to say just a word before this bill receives third reading. I want to express my regret again that the Minister of Finance made no attempt in any way to meet the views with regard to the five per cent feature of clause 12. I think the matter was much more serious than he appeared to regard it. It is just not possible for me to believe that the matter of finding a definition is insuperable. I want to record again my agreement with the hon. member for Eglinton (Mr. Fleming) for suggesting, though he would have much preferred to avoid the necessity of so doing, that it might be left to a regulation. All of these the minister turned down flat. Sometimes one feels that the minister is less cooperative than at other times.

I also want to repeat what I said a moment ago: really I cannot believe that the impossibility of finding a definition was the only factor; I think it is a fair inference that the minister had changed his mind on the situation, which, as he pointed out yesterday, he was entitled to do. Nevertheless-and again I refer to what the hon. member for Eglinton said-to throw overboard, I suggest with no adequate reason given, what had been passed by this parliament at the suggestion of the minister himself in his budget speech, to have that done as it was done yesterday, is just a fresh instance which makes us feel how low this parliament has sunk in the eyes of the government.

Topic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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LIB

Elie Beauregard (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Is it the pleasure of the house to adopt the motion?

Topic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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PC

George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

On division.

Motion agreed to and bill read the third time and passed on division.

Topic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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EMERGENCY GOLD MINING ASSISTANCE ACT

MODIFICATION OF APPLICATION AS TO LAST QUARTER OF 1950 AND EXTENSION IN MODIFIED FORM TO 1951

LIB

George Prudham (Minister of Mines and Technical Surveys)

Liberal

Hon. George Prudham (Minister of Mines and Technical Surveys) moved

the third reading of Bill No. 194, to amend the Emergency Gold Mining Assistance Act.

Topic:   EMERGENCY GOLD MINING ASSISTANCE ACT
Subtopic:   MODIFICATION OF APPLICATION AS TO LAST QUARTER OF 1950 AND EXTENSION IN MODIFIED FORM TO 1951
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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Donald M. Fleming (Eglinton):

I have just one brief comment to make on this subject. In view of the inadequacy of the relief provided for the gold mining industry by this measure, and the critical condition in which that industry finds itself today, will an

opportunity be provided at the fall session of parliament to review again the position of the gold mining industry? I would urge that there is no reason why that should not be done. I can see many reasons why it ought to be done. I can see abundant reason why it should be regarded as an urgent enough matter to claim the attention of parliament at the session three or four months hence.

I would ask from the Minister of Mines and Technical Surveys or from the Minister of Finance assurance that an opportunity will be afforded to parliament to review this whole question of the position in which the gold mining industry finds itself in consequence of government policy. May I emphasize the fact that it is tied up directly with government policy in reference to the international monetary fund. The governors of that fund are meeting in September. It will be a meeting of the highest importance, and parliament should have some report from the government in regard to what will take place at that September conference and an opportunity of expressing itself on the action of or position taken by government representatives at that conference.

In particular I would suggest this is a matter that is eminently suitable for review before a committee of this house, and I offer the further suggestion that the method found for promoting a review of government policy in regard to this whole subject should include a reference of the matter to the standing committee on banking and commerce, where officials could be heard and could give their evidence.

Motion agreed to and bill read the third time and passed.

Topic:   EMERGENCY GOLD MINING ASSISTANCE ACT
Subtopic:   MODIFICATION OF APPLICATION AS TO LAST QUARTER OF 1950 AND EXTENSION IN MODIFIED FORM TO 1951
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CENTRAL MORTGAGE AND HOUSING

AMENDMENT OF ACT WITH RESPECT TO DEFENCE PROJECTS, PAYMENT OF ADVANCES, ETC.

LIB

Robert Henry Winters (Minister of Resources and Development)

Liberal

Hon. Robert H. Winters (Minister of Resources and Development) moved

the second reading of Bill No. 380, to amend the Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation Act.

Topic:   CENTRAL MORTGAGE AND HOUSING
Subtopic:   AMENDMENT OF ACT WITH RESPECT TO DEFENCE PROJECTS, PAYMENT OF ADVANCES, ETC.
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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming:

Is the minister going to make a statement now?

Topic:   CENTRAL MORTGAGE AND HOUSING
Subtopic:   AMENDMENT OF ACT WITH RESPECT TO DEFENCE PROJECTS, PAYMENT OF ADVANCES, ETC.
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LIB

Robert Henry Winters (Minister of Resources and Development)

Liberal

Mr. Winters:

This is a short bill containing only four sections. As hon. members know, the Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation Act was enacted in 1945, and has not been amended since. In the meantime the operations of the Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation have changed quite substantially. It has got into fields of construction and other operations not contemplated at the

Gold Mining

time it was set up to administer the National Housing Act. Some of the changes are quite incidental. For example, the Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation Act designated the responsible minister as the Minister of Finance. It is now proposed to change that. The board of directors is specifically designated so far as those appointed from within the public service of Canada are concerned. It is intended now to make that more general to provide additional flexibility.

A further change sought is one designed to increase the power of the corporation to borrow from the treasury by an amount equivalent to the investment of the corporation in foreclosed properties. Hon. members will recall that under section 24 the corporation is limited in its borrowings from the treasury to an amount owing to it on loans made under the various housing acts. The effect of this limitation is that the capital of the corporation becomes invested in foreclosed properties as they are acquired by the corporation. Already the units constructed by Housing Enterprises Limited have been taken over by the corporation, and some $24 million of the corporation's capital position is invested in this asset. What I believe was originally intended was that the borrowing power of the corporation should be limited to its over-all investment-including foreclosed real estate-in the National Housing Act. The effect of the proposed amendment is to place the corporation's investment in foreclosed properties in the same position as that of outstanding loans.

Topic:   CENTRAL MORTGAGE AND HOUSING
Subtopic:   AMENDMENT OF ACT WITH RESPECT TO DEFENCE PROJECTS, PAYMENT OF ADVANCES, ETC.
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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Donald M. Fleming (Eglinfon):

I do

not think this measure calls for extended comment on second reading. The amendments, on the whole, are of a formal nature. No question of policy in regard to housing is raised by any of these amendments. The house had an extended and timely debate on housing policy ten days ago; accordingly, I do not think that further comment on the present bill is required on second reading.

Topic:   CENTRAL MORTGAGE AND HOUSING
Subtopic:   AMENDMENT OF ACT WITH RESPECT TO DEFENCE PROJECTS, PAYMENT OF ADVANCES, ETC.
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PC

George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. George A. Drew (Leader of ihe Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, I just wish to add this thought. Without raising any question of general policy, I suggest to the minister that he give consideration to the evidence of great difficulty on the part of many of those who wish to build houses in carrying forward their projects under the present arrangements.

We will all hope that the situation which has been indicated in Windsor, and in some other cities, rectifies itself in the near future, but at this particular time our housing projects offer an opportunity for employment which

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Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation would be beneficial not only to those seeking employment but also to the people who wish to build houses.

No matter what statements may be made as to the number of houses built; no matter what statements may be made as to the provisions which are put forward by this government in co-operation with other governments, the simple fact remains that throughout Canada in the larger centres, and in some of the smaller communities as well, the housing situation is very serious. Many people are not able to obtain the houses they require. No matter what explanation we are given, that is the fact. Everything we can do should be directed toward the solution of this problem. I think this should be given particular attention at a time when it may be possible to obtain more workers in this field than could be obtained a relatively short time ago.

Topic:   CENTRAL MORTGAGE AND HOUSING
Subtopic:   AMENDMENT OF ACT WITH RESPECT TO DEFENCE PROJECTS, PAYMENT OF ADVANCES, ETC.
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June 19, 1951