April 28, 1952

LIB

Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Fournier (Hull):

Even public bills.

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George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

It is perfectly true that last Friday nigat certain measures were not dealt with. The hon. member and I both know that, but the fact remains that there is a great deal of business before the house, and most certainly the hon. member has no right to complain if a further opportunity is provided to certain hon. members associated with him to discuss subjects which they regard as so important.

But there are private members' motions and other measures before the house that are of very great importance. I suggest that up to the present time during this session the debates that have taken place on private bills and private members' motions have had a far greater sense of reality than the debates that have taken place on government motions or government bills that have been brought forward.

So far as the house is concerned, legislation could have been brought forward. It could have been sent to committees and dealt with in committees. In spite of that, the committees are really only getting under way at this stage of the session. I must say I have been much interested in the suggestion made that members of the Conservative party-

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An hon. Member:

Progressive.

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George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

-were not displaying very great interest in the affairs of the committee on defence expenditures because at one meeting only one of their members was present.

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Some hon. Members:

Order.

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LIB

James Sinclair (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Mr. Sinclair:

You know the rules.

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An hon. Member:

He makes them as he goes along.

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George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

Recognizing the supreme brilliance of the source of the last remark, I will not even make a comment. Doubtless, the hon. member will give us the benefit of his great wisdom.

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LIB

James Sinclair (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Mr. Sinclair:

It is a very simple rule known to most parliamentarians.

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PC

George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

Doubtless we will hear more from the hon. member on a number of occasions. The question that I raise concerns defence expenditures and related subjects. I might point out that at the meeting of the committee of last Tuesday, to which reference has been made-

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Some hon. Members:

Order.

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George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

-the committee had no opportunity whatever to deal with-

Business of the House

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Some hon. Members:

Order. Mr. Drew: -and that the delay-

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PC

George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

-the Petawawa situation.

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LIB

Elie Beauregard (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order. I would ask the leader of the opposition not to discuss at this time what took place at the meeting of the committee.

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LIB

James Sinclair (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Mr. Sinclair:

That is the rule I was talking about.

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George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

Mr. Speaker, I am so glad you have such excellent advice. According to the hon. member, apparently you follow that advice whenever you hear it. I know-

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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

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LIB

Elie Beauregard (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order.

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George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

-it has been indicated on many occasions, Mr. Speaker, that the members of the house have confidence in your judgment, and I might say they have no confidence at all in the judgment or otherwise of the hon. member who has been interrupting.

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April 28, 1952