May 5, 1953

INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS

CONCURRENCE IN SECOND REPORT OF STANDING COMMITTEE

LIB

Albert Frederick Macdonald

Liberal

Mr. A. F. Macdonald (Edmonton East):

Mr. Speaker, I beg to move, seconded by the hon. member for Spadina (Mr. Croll):

That the second report of the standing committee on industrial relations, presented on Tuesday, April 28, he now concurred in.

Topic:   INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS
Subtopic:   CONCURRENCE IN SECOND REPORT OF STANDING COMMITTEE
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, before this motion for concurrence in the second report of the standing committee on industrial relations is' carried, I should like to say just a few words. As hon. members are no doubt aware, the second report of this committee was tabled on Tuesday, April 28, and indicated that the committee had endorsed the principle of Bill No. 2 and recommended that the principle of the said bill, together with the submissions included in the printed evidence, be studied by the government in connection with its review and proposed revision of the provisions of the Industrial Relations and Disputes Investigation Act.

No doubt hon. members are aware that Bill No. 2 is my bill which called for writing the check-off of trade union dues into the federal labour code. I certainly would not take the time of the house now to go into this matter at any length as it has been debated frequently in the house. Some of us would have liked to have seen progress made in the form of a legislative enactment at this session, but we are at least glad that this much progress has been made. After my bill having been defeated on several occasions, its principle has now been endorsed by the committee, and the motion now before us proposes that the house likewise endorse it and recommend to the government that the matter be studied.

I think attention should be drawn to the fact that the request for a study of this matter includes more than just what was in the bill. It asks the government also to study even more advanced ways of providing union security as suggested in some of the submissions included in the evidence that has been laid on the table of the house by the industrial relations committee.

As I say, some of us had hoped that we might get further than this at this session, but at least we are making progress. I trust that the study that will be made of this measure on the recommendation of the committee will result in some form of the checkoff being written into the federal labour code at the earliest possible date.

Topic:   INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS
Subtopic:   CONCURRENCE IN SECOND REPORT OF STANDING COMMITTEE
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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. Jean Francois Poulioi (Temiscouata):

Mr. Speaker, there was not a unanimous report of the committee in connection with this bill because I dissented and I refused to withdraw that dissent. I cannot understand the advantage of a voluntary revocable check-off because there is a certain contradiction in the term. Besides that, there are enough check-offs. There is a check-off for income tax, there is a check-off for something else, and there is a check-off for something else again. Now it is suggested there be a check-off for union dues which would benefit mostly the union leaders rather than the men.

If my hon. friends are in contact with the union leaders, I am in contact with the men. The men are fed up with these check-offs. They admit that there must be a check-off for income tax, but a check-off for this, a check-off for that, and a check-off to provide huge salaries for union leaders is more than enough. I am strongly opposed to it for the reasons I have mentioned.

Topic:   INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS
Subtopic:   CONCURRENCE IN SECOND REPORT OF STANDING COMMITTEE
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CCF

Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Angus Maclnnis (Vancouver East):

Mr. Speaker, I do not think the remarks of the hon. member for Temiscouata (Mr. Pouliot) can be allowed to stand as they are. As I understand it, the principle that was adopted by the industrial relations committee and which is now before us in its second report was the principle of a voluntary check-off. As far as this report is concerned, no member of a union will have his union dues taken off his pay cheque without his consent; and if he consents to do that, the next week decides that he does not wish to have it, he will withdraw his consent and there will be no further check-off so far as he is concerned. Things that are not correct should not be put on the record here, so as to stir up animosity between various groups and sections.

Topic:   INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS
Subtopic:   CONCURRENCE IN SECOND REPORT OF STANDING COMMITTEE
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Motion agreed to.



Inquiries of the Ministry INCOME TAX


INQUIRIES BY DEPARTMENT CONCERNING DONATIONS TO CHURCHES


On the orders of the day:


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Mr, Leon Balcer (Three Rivers):

Mr. Speaker, before the orders of the day are called I should like to ask a question of the Minister of National Revenue. Is the minister aware that his department has been sending an abbreviated T.R. form to Catholics in this country in order to carry on an inquiry with respect to church donations? If so, would he indicate to the house if this practice is to be continued much longer?

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LIB

James Joseph McCann (Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Hon. J. J. McCann (Minister of National Revenue):

Mr. Speaker, the question contains an incorrect inference when it asks-

Is the minister aware that his department has been sending an abbreviated T. R. form to Catholics in this country in order to carry on an inquiry with respect to church donations?

Forms are being sent out to taxpayers of any and all denominations in order that we may get more correct information on which to base assessments with reference to donations for church purposes.

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INQUIRY FOR RETURN

HOUSING


On the orders of the day:


CCF

Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Angus Maclnnis (Vancouver East):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to ask the Minister of Resources and Development when I may expect an answer to a question on the order paper, which was passed as an order for return on March 19. I should like to have it, if possible, before the close of the session.

Topic:   INQUIRY FOR RETURN
Subtopic:   HOUSING
Sub-subtopic:   CONSTRUCTION AND FINANCE
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LIB

Robert Henry Winters (Minister of Resources and Development)

Liberal

Hon. Robert H. Winters (Minister of Resources and Development):

Mr. Speaker,

I shall be glad to look into the matter.

Topic:   INQUIRY FOR RETURN
Subtopic:   HOUSING
Sub-subtopic:   CONSTRUCTION AND FINANCE
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WOODFALLE SCHOOL, ROCKCLIFFE


On the orders of the day:


PC

Albany M. Robichaud

Progressive Conservative

Mr. A. M. Robichaud (Gloucester):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to ask a question of the Minister of National Defence. When may I expect the tabling of correspondence in answer to an order for return passed by the house under my name on January 28, and appearing at page 1402 of Hansard, respecting the teaching of French and religion at the Rockcliffe school?

Topic:   WOODFALLE SCHOOL, ROCKCLIFFE
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May 5, 1953