May 12, 1953

LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

I am afraid the hon. member had better repeat his question. I was not able to follow him.

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Gordon Francis Higgins

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Higgins:

I shall read this again, if you do not mind. It is a press release from defence headquarters, and the last paragraph reads:

Department of Transport meteorologists and telecommunications operators are remaining at Torbay to carry out essential duties, and the change-over allows for continuation of limited commercial operations from the station.

What does that mean? That is all I asked the minister.

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

I am informed that we are transferring our interests in the airport to the R.C.A.F., but we are maintaining facilities for civil aviation at Torbay.

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Gordon Francis Higgins

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Higgins:

Will there be any diminution of the facilities so far as civil aviation is concerned?

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

Not in so far as civil aviation is concerned.

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Howard Charles Green

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Green:

Has the department given any consideration to a possible route from the west coast over the pole to Europe?

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

Well, consideration has been given to it, but there has been no application for an air route. This could only have reference to long-term plans of operation, and there has been no application for a route across the pole.

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Item agreed to. Construction services- 498. Construction or acquisition of buildings, works, land and new equipment-capital, $8,919,825.


LIB

Edward Turney Applewhaite

Liberal

Mr. Applewhaite:

When the minister made his introductory remarks on his estimates some time ago, he was good enough to mention the city of Prince Rupert. As the minister knows only too well, I could make a very long speech without repeating myself on the subject of the need for an airport at Prince Rupert. I think the minister has heard more from me than he thinks necessary, but at this point I do wish to quote two sentences from a letter on the subject by perhaps Canada's outstanding aviation expert, Mr. McConachie, president of Canadian Pacific Air Lines. In writing to the chamber of commerce of Prince Rupert on February 6 last with regard to this subject, he said:

As you know proper service to Prince Rupert cannot be provided until such time as the airport is completed, and when it is land planes will be put on from Edmonton right through to Prince Rupert. I sincerely hope your organization will continually press for this essential development.

That, I repeat, is a statement by the president of Canadian Pacific Air Lines. Attention of the house has been drawn already this evening to the report of the tragic fatality G8108-331

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at Prince Rupert which would not have occurred had there not been dependence upon waterborne aircraft. Now, that is all I am going to say on the subject, except to ask the minister if he will kindly tell us what his department has in view in connection with the airport at Prince Rupert, and I mean what they have in view for 1953.

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

Mr. Chairman, there is an item in the estimates to provide for facilities and an airstrip able to take land craft. We have given consideration to three sites at Prince Rupert, all of which are costly to construct and operate. We have come to the conclusion that the site of Digby island is one that would be most economical from a long range standpoint. We have provided in the estimates a sufficient amount of money to make investigations and surveys of that type and to proceed, if the site is found to be satisfactory, with the construction of a strip on the island that will take care of the heaviest aircraft.

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Item agreed to. Civil aviation division-airways and airports- construction services- 752. Construction or acquisition of buildings, works, land and new equipment-capital-further amount required, $1,113,000.


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Herbert Wilfred Herridge

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Herridge:

I intend to take a minute or two on this item, Mr. Chairman. For the information of the committee I might say that for centuries a small tribe of Indians lived at the junction of the Kootenay and the Columbia rivers. Then about 60 years ago two or three log huts were built near that point. In 1906 the first school was built and the village of Castlegar was established. Since that time there has been a somewhat slow development, but in the last ten years there has been such rapid development that at present Castlegar is one of the most rapidly growing municipalities in British Columbia, and with that development has come an increased demand for air service.

Four or five years ago the municipalities of Nelson, Castlegar and Kinnaird got together and undertook the construction of an airport at Castlegar on some land formerly owned by the Doukhobors. The minister's department has assisted with a grant on three separate occasions. But owing to the increased traffic and the heavier planes that are required, the airport committee, the chambers of commerce and various other groups in the constituency as well as individuals made representations to the minister for an additional grant, which is included in this item, to complete the paving

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of the strips and the development of the airport so that it will accommodate the heavier planes.

The Castlegar airport committee and the people I represent have asked me to express, when this item came before the committee, their sincere appreciation of the minister's consideration of the need for further assistance. Representations were made, supported by the hon. member for Kootenay West. When the minister was convinced of the need, he recommended this grant. We are extremely pleased indeed that this grant is being made for the further development of the airport. I can assure the minister that this money will be most carefully expended and that good results will be assured from this grant.

In addition to that, I have been asked to express our appreciation to the Minister of Fisheries. He knows the airport personally. He has visited it. The airport committee discussed the situation with him, and they appreciate his support in connection with this grant. I must say, Mr. Chairman, that without any doubt the investment of this grant in the Castlegar airport will prove of great value to the people of the interior of British Columbia.

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Harry Oliver White

Progressive Conservative

Mr. White (Middlesex East):

Before the item carries, there are about three questions I should like to ask the minister dealing with the airport at Crumlin near London, Ontario. In the estimates is there provision for increasing the length of the runways at London?

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

No.

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Harry Oliver White

Progressive Conservative

Mr. White (Middlesex East):

Is it the duty of the minister's department to acquire land and increase the length of the runways or is it the duty of the R.C.A.F.? Both the department and the R.C.A.F. operate out of Crumlin.

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

The answer to the first question is no. The answer to the second question is that if it is an R.C.A.F. airport or if it is jointly operated by both and the land is required for defence purposes, they will ask to have an expropriation and we proceed at their request.

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Harry Oliver White

Progressive Conservative

Mr. White (Middlesex East):

But there is no money in this vote for that purpose?

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

We have not been asked by the Department of National Defence to expropriate lands at London.

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Item agreed to. Civil aviation division- 755. To authorize the Minister of Transport to undertake to purchase, from federal government employees, lots purchased by them in the townsite of Gander, Newfoundland, and houses and related works constructed on such lots, $1.


PC

Gordon Francis Higgins

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Higgins:

May I ask the minister to explain this item?

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May 12, 1953