December 18, 1957

LIB

Donald Ferguson Brown

Liberal

Mr. Brown (Essex West):

No, I am not, Mr. Speaker. You may rule on the matter.

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PC

Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

I will hear the remainder of it.

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LIB

Donald Ferguson Brown

Liberal

Mr. Brown (Essex West):

This is because regulations issued by the treasury department, foreign assets control department, had placed an embargo on shipments by United States companies and their affiliates, and further because these regulations are applicable to transactions involving the United

States parent company as well as the affiliate company in Canada. I hold a copy of the letter in my hand.

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PC

Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

Perhaps I should leave the matter to the minister, but it seems to me the answer the minister gave, to the effect that the action of the United States government with respect to United States companies was beyond the jurisdiction of this government and not a proper subject of question to this government because it has no responsibility in the matter, applies also to the further question, and that such question should not be asked of this government.

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LIB

Donald Ferguson Brown

Liberal

Mr. Brown (Essex West):

I quite agree with you, Mr. Speaker, that as far as United States companies are concerned the United States government has control over such United States companies. What I am asking is this. Is it appropriate for a large United States company having an affiliate in Canada-this is an affiliate, not a subsidiary-to prohibit a Canadian exporter from exporting to communist China, and so on?

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PC

Howard Charles Green (Minister of Defence Production; Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Howard C. Green (Minister of Public Works):

Mr. Speaker, if this question is a proper question under any circumstances, surely there can be no doubt that it should be placed on the order paper rather than be asked on the orders of the day.

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PC

Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

I cannot see that it is a proper question and I must rule accordingly.

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PROVISION OF CREDIT FOR POLAND


On the orders of the day:


CCF

Hazen Robert Argue

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. H. R. Argue (Assiniboia):

Might I ask a question of the Acting Minister of Trade and Commerce based on a press report in the Regina Leader-Post of December 13, wherein the Polish charge d'affaires in Ottawa is quoted as saying that if better Canadian credit were forthcoming, Poland could afford to buy even more wheat this year. Would the government consider extending credit beyond the three-year term, so that Poland and other countries that have shown interest in this matter may purchase substantially increased quantities of wheat?

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PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell (Minister Without Portfolio)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. J. M. Macdonnell (Acting Minister of Trade and Commerce):

Mr. Speaker, as I said before, the government is considering the question of extending credit to a whole series of European countries and, as I have also said, I do not think it is in the public interest to give details of these matters while discussions are going forward.

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CCF

Hazen Robert Argue

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Argue:

Then may I ask a supplementary question. Are the reports received correct, that the Canadian government is refusing and has refused to grant credit in excess of three years?

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PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell (Minister Without Portfolio)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell:

Mr. Speaker, I am not going to answer that question. I have previously made it clear that I think the people who are negotiating should be left free, and I think I would be doing a disservice to the whole cause of selling wheat if I allowed myself to be drawn into giving this detail and that detail. It could only embarrass those who have the responsibility of making deals.

We have, however, every hope that as a result of negotiations substantial sales of wheat will take place. I am going to stick to the position, therefore, that I think to be drawn into giving this and that detail would be harmful to those who are carrying on the business.

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CCF

Hazen Robert Argue

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Argue:

I wonder if the minister would care to answer this question, then. Is it not a fact that no person or no organization in this country is opposed to credit extensions beyond the three-year period?

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PC

Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

Order. The hon. member has had two replies, and I think he is pushing this matter beyond where it should go.

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DISCUSSION OF BRITISH AND CANADIAN PROPOSALS


On the orders of the day:


LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Hon. Paul Marlin (Essex East):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to ask the Acting Minister of Trade and Commerce, for whom we all have deep respect and who has displayed a great knowledge of trade matters-and I say that very sincerely-if we are to conclude that the presence of the Minister of Finance in Paris at the moment indicates the government's intention that members of the delegation now in Paris will discuss with their opposite numbers in the British government the free trade proposal and the proposal of the Prime Minister of Canada for the transfer of purchases from one friendly country to another, and if advantage will be taken of the presence of Canadian ministers to pursue these discussions?

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PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell (Minister Without Portfolio)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. J. M. Macdonnell (Acting Minister of Trade and Commerce):

Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Finance will be back in a day or so, and it seems to me he would be the best person to answer this question if he should wish to do so.

Inquiries of the Ministry POWER

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NOVA SCOTIA

December 18, 1957