Mr. Chevrier:

Will the Deputy Speaker allow me to speak to the point raised by the minister?

Mr. Deputy Speaker:

Yes.

Mr. Chevrier:

The point I wanted to make was this, and perhaps I made it too bluntly. In view of the attitude taken by certain hon. members toward the member for Lau-rier in connection with this legislation I do not think that the minister should have made the request he did. But, as I said, sir, I will disregard any of the statements made concerning myself, and in view of what the Minister of Transport said, I am quite sure that those of us who sit on this side of the house are perfectly happy to let the bill receive third reading, notwithstanding the fact that under normal circumstances it should stand over. Since the minister wishes the bill to receive third reading, and in view of the request he has made, we are perfectly satisfied to let it go forward. (Translation):

Mr. Bourgel:

Mr. Chairman, I would like to add only one word in answer to the minister. (Text):

Mr. Deputy Speaker:

Order. If the hon. member wishes to speak on third reading he will have his opportunity in a moment.

Mr. Balcer moved

the third reading of the bill.

(Translation):

Mr. Bourgel:

Mr. Chairman, I intend to support the bill. The Minister of Transport just made a statement which seems to indicate that we are responsible for the delay in the passing of this bill. If it is not what the minister meant to say, I offer him my apologies, and I withdraw what I said. However, I understood the minister to say that we had delayed the passing of this bill and therefore delayed creating work for a number of workers.

Mr. Balcer:

Mr. Speaker, I asked very politely the hon. member for Laurier whether he would reconsider his decision because this is a potential work-making project.

(Text):

Mr. Deputy Speaker:

Order. I must inform the minister that since he moved the third reading of the bill he is not entitled to speak because having moved it he is considered as having spoken. Is the house ready for the question?

(Translation):

Mr. Bourgel:

Well, Mr. Chairman, it may be implied, I think, from his remarks that

the opposition was being blamed for having delayed the passing of this bill because the minister said: "Well, the purpose of this measure was to provide employment for a certain number of workers". We agree on that, but we are not ready to agree, for instance, that it is the fault of the opposition if this measure was not introduced before today or last week.

Repeatedly, the Leader of the Opposition (Mr. Pearson) asked the Prime Minister (Mr. Diefenbaker) if there were certain measures which could provide jobs for the workers and, if so, to introduce them in this house as soon as possible.

Consequently, I do not believe-

Mr. Tremblay:

Vote, that is the best way to provide jobs.

Keep quiet.

Mr. Bourgel:

Mr. Chairman, out of respect for you, I shall not answer the hon. member for Roberval (Mr. Tremblay) who interrupts again. I shall not answer because I wish to contribute-

Mr. Tremblay:

Because you cannot.

Mr. Bourgel:

-because I want to contribute to the upholding of the proprieties of this house.

Once again, I say that we cannot be blamed under the circumstances, but we may come to the conclusion, by inference, that the minister blamed the opposition for having delayed the passing of this measure which would have provided jobs for workers. Well, the minister knows very well-

That is what you are doing now.

Mr. Valade:

You may not have done so, but you are doing it now.

Mr. Bourgel:

Mr. Chairman, for Heaven's sake, would it be possible for us to be given peace in this house? Could we have it once and for all?

Mr. Deputy Speaker:

Order. May I remind all hon. members that it is against the rules to interrupt the hon. member who has the floor without his permission.

Mr. Bourgel:

Well, Mr. Chairman-