February 22, 1961

LIB

Mr. Denis

Liberal

1. What is the name of the person who now has the contract for the rural mail delivery at Ladysmith, R.R. 1, Ontario?

2. On what date will such contract expire?

3. Has the said contract been renewed, or will the said contract be renewed in favour of the person who now has it?

4. If not: (a) have tenders been (i) invited

(ii) opened? (b) what are the names of the tenderers, and the amount of each tender? (c) to whom was the contract awarded?

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William McLean Hamilton (Postmaster General)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. W. M. Hamilton (Postmaster General):

Mr. Speaker, this question inquires about a place entitled Ladysmith, Ontario, which does not exist. I think the hon. member is referring to Ladysmith, Quebec, which does exist.

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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

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William McLean Hamilton (Postmaster General)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hamilton (Notre Dame de Grace):

Subject to that reservation the answers to the four parts of this question are as follows:

1. Reinhold Pasch.

2. 31st March 1961.

3. No.

4. (a) (i) No. (ii) Not applicable.

(b) Not applicable.

(c) James Turcotte.

On the orders of the day:

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LIB

Azellus Denis

Liberal

Mr. Azellus Denis (St. Denis):

Mr. Speaker, on a question of privilege, we have heard that the Postmaster General tries to be very smart and funny when he says he does not know what the province is. Following the motion I put on the order paper I received a letter written by the district director of the post office, addressed to Mr. R. Pasch,

Starred Questions

mail contractor, Ladysmith, Ontario. Therefore if I made a mistake in the first place, it was originated by one of his own officials.

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Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

Order. The hon. member makes a question of privilege out of a rather minor mistake. 1 am sure his explanation will be of interest.

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LIB

Azellus Denis

Liberal

Mr. Denis:

May I direct a question to the Postmaster General following the answer he gave to the house under starred questions to the effect that the contract at Ladysmith, Quebec, if he wishes, will terminate on March 31, that the contractor will be replaced by somebody else and that public tenders will not be called.

I have here a letter from the department and I want the minister to assert whether this report is true and say whether it is the new policy of his department that the new contract for such service is to be awarded to-

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Francis Alvin George Hamilton (Minister of Agriculture)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hamilton (Noire Dame de Grace):

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, it is traditional in this house that correspondence is not read in connection with a question.

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Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

I did not hear the Postmaster General.

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William McLean Hamilton (Postmaster General)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hamilton (Notre Dame de Grace):

believe it is contrary to our accepted practice to read a letter in the house and found a question on it. Questions are intended to be short, direct and to the point, and I suggest that this wandering explanation leading up to the reading of a letter is not within the purview of the question period.

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Official Opposition House Leader; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

What citation supports that view?

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PC

Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

The hon. member for St. Denis may have a question to ask, but I found difficulty in following what his question was. Could the hon. member state the question he has to ask? Then perhaps we can determine whether there is any need to read the letter.

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William McLean Hamilton (Postmaster General)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hamilton (Notre Dame de Grace):

Further to the point of order, citation 176 of Beauchesne, at page 151, says that on February 24, 1933 a member said he would like to address a question to the minister of labour concerning the town of Transcona. He then read a telegram. Mr. Speaker said:

The hon. member should ask his question, not read a communication. The communication could have been sent to the minister in charge without it being necessary to read it in the house.

There are further citations to the same effect, pointing out that communications should not be read in connection with questions.

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LIB

Azellus Denis

Liberal

Mr. Denis:

In order to please the Postmaster General I will rephrase my question.

1 am informed that the contract at Ladysmith will be awarded to somebody else without any tenders being called. I should like to know whether this information is true and, if so, whether it is the new policy of the department to grant new contracts without calling for tenders.

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William McLean Hamilton (Postmaster General)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hamilton (Notre Dame de Grace):

Having answered the question earlier in the day in exactly those terms-that this contract had been awarded to another person and that tenders had not been called-it is hardly within the purview of the question period for an hon. member to stand up immediately afterwards and ask if that is the true situation.

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Lionel Chevrier (Official Opposition House Leader; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

Why not say you fired the fellow? Give us the facts.

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Walter Franklyn Matthews

Progressive Conservative

Mr. W. F. Matthews (Nanaimo):

I should like to address a question to the Postmaster General, and I hope this continued nagging by the hon. member for St. Denis will not prejudice the interest of my constituents.

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Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

Order. The hon. member appears to be making a statement. I suggest we pass to the orders of the day.

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COAL MINE OPERATION, CAPE BRETON SUBSIDY ON LOSSES

LIB

Mr. Dumas

Liberal

1. Has any estimate been made of the cost (a) to the federal government (b) to the province of Nova Scotia, arising from the subsidy to be applied against company losses from the operation of three coal mines in Cape Breton for a temporary period?

2. If so, what is any such cost to (a) the federal government (b) the province of Nova Scotia?

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February 22, 1961