February 5, 1963

NDP

Murdo William Martin

New Democratic Party

Mr. Murdo Martin (Timmins):

I wish to address a question to the Minister of Transport. In view of the report in this morning's he Devoir that the C.N.R. in paid advertisements refers to French as Montreal's second language, would the minister assure the house that he will inform Mr. Gordon that Montreal is the second largest French speaking city in the world?

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PC

Marcel Joseph Aimé Lambert (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

Order. The hon. member has given the information already.

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LIB

Stanley Haidasz

Liberal

Mr. Stanley Haidasz (Parkdale):

I should like to ask the Prime Minister whether it is true that he intends to appoint to the Senate the former mayor of Toronto, Mr. Nathan Phillips.

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PC

Marcel Joseph Aimé Lambert (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

Order. I do not think it is competent to ask for confirmation or denial of any rumors.

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POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT

COMMEMORATIVE STAMP


On the orders of the day:


LIB

Stanley Haidasz

Liberal

Mr. Stanley Haidasz (Parkdale):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to ask the Postmaster General to assure the house that Sir Casimir Gzowski, the great Polish patriot who is to be honoured by a commemorative stamp, was of Polish origin and not a citizen of Russia.

Topic:   POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT
Subtopic:   COMMEMORATIVE STAMP
Sub-subtopic:   NATIONALITY OF SIR CASIMIR GZOWSKI
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PC

Ellen Louks Fairclough (Postmaster General)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Ellen L. Fairclough (Postmaster General):

If my memory serves me correctly, I think no such assertion was made. Having regard for the changes in geography since the date of his birth, I think there might be some confusion as to the actual territory concerned, but no statement was made to that effect as far as I can recall.

Topic:   POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT
Subtopic:   COMMEMORATIVE STAMP
Sub-subtopic:   NATIONALITY OF SIR CASIMIR GZOWSKI
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LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill

Liberal

Hon. J. W. Pickersgill (Bonavista-Twil-lingale):

Did the hon. lady hear the announcement on the C.B.C. this morning, which stated quite clearly that he was born in Russia?

Topic:   POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT
Subtopic:   COMMEMORATIVE STAMP
Sub-subtopic:   NATIONALITY OF SIR CASIMIR GZOWSKI
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PC

Marcel Joseph Aimé Lambert (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

Order. We are now getting into some little bit of argument here. I think the persons concerned can settle it.

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Topic:   POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT
Subtopic:   COMMEMORATIVE STAMP
Sub-subtopic:   NATIONALITY OF SIR CASIMIR GZOWSKI
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INQUIRY AS TO PAY REVIEW FOR CERTAIN CLASSES


On the orders of the day:


NDP

Stanley Howard Knowles (N.D.P. House Leader; Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, may I direct a question to the Minister of Finance. Is the question of pay increases for messengers and cleaning staff in the House of Commons and for the civil servants not provided for on December 10 still under review, or has a decision been reached?

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PC

George Clyde Nowlan (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. George C. Nowlan (Minister of Finance):

Mr. Speaker, the matter is under review.

The house resumed, from Monday, February 4, consideration of the motion of Mr. Nowlan for committee of supply, and the amendment thereto of Mr. Pearson, and the amendment to the amendment of Mr. Thompson.

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LIB

Paul Theodore Hellyer

Liberal

Hon. Paul Hellyer (Trinity):

Mr. Speaker, we in the Liberal opposition are prepared to support the subamendment moved by the hon. member for Red Deer (Mr. Thompson), which expresses in somewhat different words the same lack of confidence expressed in the amendment moved by the Leader of the Opposition. We particularly welcome the opportunity to express the view that the government has failed to give a clear statement of policy respecting Canada's national defence.

Last evening I put on the record some of the factual material relating to our present defence dilemma, which should have been put on the record by the government. The facts demonstrate that the government undertook, without any coercion, certain commitments in the common defence which it now refuses to honour. Furthermore, it attempts to confuse an already complicated subject by introducing irrelevant and misleading information designed to camouflage its bungling and indecision.

The Prime Minister, for example, in referring to the adequacy of the United States strategic deterrent, attempts to give the impression that the Canadian contribution would be an unnecessary supplement. The hon. member for York South even more skilful in his confusion, quotes the Leader of the Opposition as saying that Canada should not contribute to the strategic nuclear deterrent.

Mr. Speaker, no one is suggesting that we should do so. There are three classes of atomic weapons, and these are well known

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Alleged Lack of Government Leadership to most people. They are the strategic, the tactical, and the purely defensive. It is true that in the strategic field there is more than adequate under the control of the United States. But it is equally true that in the opinion of military people in charge of these matters, tactical and strictly defensive nuclear weapons are required both in NATO and in NORAD.

One point that is worth mentioning is this. In fulfilling our commitments to NATO and NORAD-

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NDP

Douglas Mason Fisher

New Democratic Party

Mr. Fisher:

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I should like to inquire of the hon. member whether he is reading from a speech or a text. If he is doing so I should like to draw Your Honour's attention to the point of order.

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Some hon. Members:

Shame.

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William Moore Benidickson

Liberal Labour

Mr. Benidickson:

Every time you speak you are literary and read from a text.

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PC

Marcel Joseph Aimé Lambert (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

This matter of reading is a difficult one. Sometimes there are rather extensive notes and sometimes it is difficult to say whether what is being said has any relation to the notes. However, we will go along, as long as we are not getting into difficulty.

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February 5, 1963