Mr. MED ERIC MARTIN (Saint Mary's, Montreal):
Mr. Speaker, I must prelude my remarks with thanking the hon. member for Maskinonge (Mr. Bellemare) for giving me his turn so as to permit me to leave tomorrow to attend to my duties in the great metropolis.
For nearly nine days both sides, of the House have been discussing the most important question which has risen since Confederation.
I have the'honour, Mr. Speaker, of speaking on behalf of a population of 700,000 souls, which is more than several other members of this House can say.
Religious and racial questions have been mooted and insulte hurled about. I may say that if there is one who has been insulted, besides the leader of the Opposition (Sir Wilfrid Laurier), it is your humble servant, the mayor of Montreal, since he is a public man.
Allow me, Mr. Speaker, to explain and place the responsability where it belongs 1794
for what is now occurring in our province, *and especially in the city of Montreal.
In 1911, when came the federal elections, there was a compact between three persons. One is now deceased, and. I regret to mention here the name of Hon. Mr. Monk; the others are Mr. Bourassa and Mr.
A great meeting was held in the village of Saint Eustache. I was not on the platform, but with the crowd in attendance, and if anybody then insulted the British flag, the Prime Minister of to-day and the prime minister of that time ('Sir Wilfrid Laurier), they were those three gentlemen. They had undertaken to preach one policy in the province of Quebec and another in the West.
Their plan has succeeded. They went all over the different counties of the province of Quebec and deceived the electorate to such an extent that the former Prime Minister, who is now leader of the Opposition was defeated and twenty-two candidates supported by these .three gentlemen were elected to this House with a mandate which they had never expected. 'Such was the compact.
After being insulted, as was the present Prime Minister, by these three gentlemen, including Mr. 'Monk and Mr. Bourassa, what happened the very next day? The portfolio of Public Works, the most important of the Borden Cabinet, was given to Mr. Monk, which well proves what I have just said.
Hon. Mr. Pelletier, to-day Judge Pelletier, for whom I have the highest consideration, and other honourable members on the other side of the House have mentioned the name of Mr. Armand Lavergne. Mr. Pelletier at the time was bowing low to Mr. Lavergne who was then but a young man, and was calling him his leader; yet here was he the very next day" accepting the portfolio of Postmaster General. All the others went to the Government side. My hon. friend knows something of it; he well knows what happened in the province of Quebec.
Now, Sir, when you see such things, and others still worse, for I will show the means taken to deceive the people-I am not at all surprised at what is happening to-day in the province of Quebec.
Since Confederation, the Conservative party has always resorted to insult and has always had recourse to a double-faced policy; one for the province of Quebec and the other for the province of Ontario.
It was said in the province of Quebec when I was a boy, for I am concerned in elections since I am ten years old, that Sir
Wilfrid Laurier was ;a traitor to his race, that he had sold Canada to England; they eaid in the West that Sir Wilfrid 'Laurier was not enough of an Imperialist, but a papist and the champion of Quebec only.
I have no hesitation in stating that those responsible for what is happening to-day are the Conservative Government and the twenty-two members who had the honour to be sent here, but who never heeded their mandate.
It was said in this House, Sir, that the province of Quebec was not loyal to the British flag, and that we have not done our duty.
There are two ways' to solve the problem which is now submitted to us: We have to decide if our contribution must be in money, if we have to pay the toll of blood in sending men overseas or if our contribution will be by sending supplies to the Allies.
The city of Montreal alone, and if I speak here, it is in consequence of a resolution adopted by the city council of Montreal, dated June 5, 1917, and worded as folio .vs:
Copy of the minute of proceedings of the special meeting of the Montreal Municipal Council, held on Tuesday, June 5, 1917.
The order of the day having been read for the consideration of a notice of motion by Alderman Mayrand on the question of conscription, are submitted and read: (a) A communication from His Honour the mayor, transmitting a letter from Mr. D. C. Hould, secretary of a citizens' league re conscription; (b) petitions from Montreal citizens objecting to conscription for the oversea service.
Alderman Mayrand moves, seconded by Alderman Vandelac:
That the members of this council have always been of the opinion that Canada should do its full duty towards the triumph of the Empire and of the Allied powers; but they believe likewise that it is their duty to oppose any conscription scheme under whatever form it may be introduced, as long as it shall not have been approved by the people of Canada by means of a plebiscite, and to declare that the enforcing of the Militia Act or of all other conscription laws, far from reaching the object in view, would create throughout the country a useless perturbation and would prevent us from supplying the Empire and the Allies with all essentials needed for the prosecution of the war;
That copy of the present resolution be sent to Sir Robert Borden, Prime Minister of Canada, and to Sir Wilfrid Laurier, leader of the Opposition ;
That His Honour the Mayor, Mr. Mgddric Martin, M.P., be respectfully requested to submit the present resolution to the Federal authorities, together with the various petitions which have been sent to the Council, on this subject.
And, a discussion having ensued,
Alderman O'Connell moves, seconded by Alderman Blumenthal:
That the council now adjourns.
The council divided upon the said motion, as follows:
For: O'Connell, Ward, Blumenthal, Macdonald, Weldon-5. [DOT]
Against: LariviSre, Turcot, Mayrand, Menard, Vandelac, HoulS, Elie, Dubeau, Lamarre, Brodeur, Lafortune, Bedard-12.
And it is rejected.
And a discussion ensuing,
Alderman Ward moves, seconded by Aider-man O'Connell:
Whereas the question now before the council is now the subject of the most serious attention of both political parties in Ottawa and that any intervention on the part of this council might be interpreted as a lack of confidence in the House of Commons and the Senate;
That the discussion of the motion now before the council be suspended until the Federal authorities shall have passed upon the question.
The said amendment being put, it was lost on division:
For: O'Connell, Ward, Blumenthal, Macdonald, Weldon-5.
Against: LariviSre, Turcot, Mayrand, M4-nard, Vandelac, Hould, Elie, Dubeau, Lamarre, Brodeur, Lafortune, Bedard-12.
The main motion being put, it was carried, on division.
For: LariviSre, Turcot, Mayrand, Mdnard, Vandelac, Houle, Elie, Dubeau, Lamarre, Brodeur, Lafortune, Bedard-12.
Against: O'Connell, Ward, Blumenthal, Macdonald, Weldon-5
Resolved : In consequence. .
(Signed) J. CrSpeau,
Deputy Clerk of the City.
This resolution, Mr. Speaker, was adopted by a vote of 12 to 5; there was an amendment to adjourn moved by alderman O'Connell who, though not opposing conscription, wanted to delay the question in order to allow the two political parties of this country to decide the question, and ha further stated that the adoption of such a resolution would be likely to hurt them to a great extent. It is said that Montreal, as well as the whole province of Quebec, generally, have not done their duty in the present war. I will take the liberty to mention to you the fact that we have adopted, since the beginning of the war, more than thirty resolutions, and the first, adopted by the Board of 'Commissioners and sanctioned by the *Council, is good evidence we have done our duty. We have done, twenty-four hours after the war resolution, what the Government had not done and also what the Council of the Queen city of Toronto had not done. On August 4, 1914, when I saw that England was at war, as well as France, I submitted to the Board of Commissioners the following suggestion:
Resolution of August 5, 1914, with a view to pay half-salary to the families of the permanent employees who have left to defend their country.
I considered that the half-pay alone was not sufficient, and I did not weary. On the 17th of the same month, I went back before
my colleagues and I had them adopt the following resolution:
Resolution of August 17, 1914, with a view to amend the resolution of August 5, 1914, so as to allow the payment of the salary in full.
That is what has been the attitude of the Montreal City Council, of those who represent the ideals of the people of Montreal, and would any one be right in coming to tell us that we have done nothing.
By means of thirty resolutions we have spent since the beginning of the war $7,580,791.51, distributed as follows.
Resolution dated October 5, 1914, granting $1,500 for ten beds in an hospital organized in Paris for the care of wounded soldiers.
Resolution dated October 5, 1914, granting $10,000 to the Belgian Fund.
Resolution dated November 24, 1914, granting $10,000 to the French National Fund.
Resolution dated August 28, 1914, advising the city council to vote $150,000 for the Patriotic Fund.
That amount was in answer to the first request we received for a contribution.
Resolution dated September 3, 1914, calling upon the municipal servants to subscribe to the Patriotic Fund-An amount of $12,509.39 was subscribed on that occasion.
Resolution dated March 8, 1915, advising the city council to grant an additional sum of $50,000 to give help to the unemployed labourers.
Resolution dated May 3, 1915, recommending a grant of $1,000 to the Montenegro Benevolent Fund.
Resolution dated May 18, 1915, recommending a grant of $5,000 in favour of the Red Cross Fund . . .
Resolution dated October 19, 1915, inviting the municipal servants to help the Red Cross Fund. The amount subscribed on that occasion was $8,323.13.
Resolution dated November 12, 1915, to raise to $10,000 our contribution to the Red Cross Fund. .
Resolution dated November 23, 1915, granting $5,000 to the Khaki League.
Resolution dated January 26, 1916, inviting the municipal servants to subscribe to the Patriotic Fund. This subscription amounted to $16,462.29.
Resolution dated February 12, 1916, granting $300,000 for the Patriotic Fund, and towards helping several public benevolent associations.
From this grant $250,000 went to the Patriotic Fund and $50,000 to the Benevolent Associations.
Everybody knew at the time that there was no employment to be found in Montreal. The wives of the soldiers that had enlisted were starving and we had to vote the money to help them. How many people have I seen lining up in front of my office, every morning! Hundreds of mothers told me that they could do nothing to save their children from starvation. Is there any justification, Sir, for the charge that the province of Quebec has been lacking in patriotism?
Resolution dated March 18, 191G, recommending a grant of $25,000 to the St. Vincent de Paul Society.
I must state that that Society had never before applied for help from the city.
Resolution dated March 25, 1916, granting $10,000 to the Charity Organization Society of Montreal.
We have here, Mr. Speaker, the undeniable proof that we, the French Canadians of the Metropolis make no racial nor religious distinctions. We make a fair distribution of the grants and we see to it that equal justice is dealt to all deserving parties.
Resolution dated May 9, 1916, granting $4,000 to the Baron de Hirsch Institute and the Hebrew Benevolent Society.
Another proof, Mr. Speaker, that we are giving fair treatment to all people. A large number of Hebrew citizens were in such a plight that they could not provide their families with the necessaries of life. You know as well as I do, Mr. Speaker, that those people, as a rule, are not poor; they generally have fairly large amounts to their credit. But this time they had been caught napping.
I feel it my duty, on this occasion to offer my hearty congratulations to Mr. Beaubien, mayor of Outremont, and a brother of the hon. Senator Beaubien. He foresaw that a good many of our soldiers who are fighting for liberty, will come back blind and with the co-operation of the Grey Nuns, he laid the foundations of an institution in which those maimed heroes will find work and the means of making a living for themselves and their families. The Government had nothing to do with that organization; they could not think of everything.
It is often said that enlistments, in the province of Quebec, have not been satis-fastory. What was the duty of the Government before proceeding to enlist our young men? I am speaking of the Canadians from the whole Dominion. For my part, I maintain that before enlisting our married men the Government should have provided for their wives and children; they should have provided for the wives of the soldiers a sufficient allowance for their maintenance and the maintenance and education of their children; they should have seen to it that the families of those soldiers who suffer a glorious death on the battle field, will not live in dire poverty till the end. The Government have done nothing to that end.
Hon. gentlemen have no idea of the number of complaints that come to me every day,
as mayor of Montreal. Poor women come to my office and tell me that the head of the family has been killed and that they do not get a single dollar for the blood that has been generously poured in defence of the common cause.
Let me take up once more the list of the grants voted to help the various organizations in Montreal:
Resolution dated March 27, 1917, granting $1,500 to the association "Help to the Blind." Resolution dated March 27, 1917, granting $2,500 to the " Comity de Culture."
Resolution dated June 8, 1917, granting $5,000 (budget of 1918) to the Overseas Campaign Fund of Y.M.C.A.
Budget of 1917. British Sailors' Club, $20,000.
Budget of 1917. Red Cross Society, $12,000, payable at the rate of $1,000 a month.
Contributions of the municipal servants, for 1917 (approximatively), $7,000.
To the deputation "Bonne Entente." $86.50. War Relief Fund, $10, $74, $140, $66.
For works on draining canals that were not urgent, but were executed to help the large army of unemployed, approximatively, $5,000.000.
Our contribution, to date, amounts to *ever $7,000,000. We have also voted one million dollars for the Patriotic Fund. I regret that my hon. friend for St. Antoine (Sir Herbert Ames) is not at his seat. He would bear testimony to the generosity and geniality with which the city of Montreal has answered every call for the Patriotic Fund. In justice for all interested parties I must say that this fund is well administered, notwithstanding the efforts of certain newspapers to cast discredit on tho^e who have charge of its administration. In my capacity of Mayor of Montreal, I state positively that all the monies, to the last cent, have been judiciously and honestly distributed. It is hard work to stop the people from talking. There will always be found some one inclined to hurt his neighbour. As far as money is concerned, I have no hesitation to say that we have done more than any other province of the Dominion, in proportion to our wealth and our Dopul-ation.
On a certain date, in compliance with the wishes of the Imperial authorities, the Lieutenant Governor, Sir Evariste Leblanc, invited the province to organize a Tag Day for the benefit of the Red Cross. He asked me to take charge of the organization in the city of Montreal and do you know, Mr. Speaker, what was the result of a single day-eight hours-in the city of Montreal? We collected, in round numbers, no less than $93,000. Does not that compare favorably with what has been done by certain large contributors? The hon. me.n-
ber for St. Antoine (Sir Herbert Ames) told us last night, that certain big corporations had. given $200,000; but remember that in eight hours time the workingman took nearly $100,000 out of his pocket. Is there not more generosity in this contribution of the workingman, than in the suberiptions of big corporations who-as it was explained last night by the hon. member for Maisonneuve (Mr. Verville) by several newspapers before that-made up for their losses by a cut of 20 per cent in the salaries of their staff? They have been generous at the expense of the workingman. There is no sense in reproaching Quebec with having failed to do her duty, and having exhibited a lack of loyalty to the British flag. We have constantly submitted to insults. You can have the proof of what I am saying, Mr. Speaker, by referring to Hansard, page 288, .229 and 707, Vt>l. I 1910-11, and pages 3219 and 3329, Vol. II of the same session. There you will find what the ex-Minister of Militia (Sir Sam Hughes) said concerning the French Canadian clergy. We all remember what happened in this House, concerning the Eucharistic Congress, one night that a Catholic bishop was in the gallery.
We are bound to respect all creeds, and when insult is offered to wbait the French Canadian holds nearest to his heart, his religion, that is not calculated to promote harmony between the various elements of our population.
In spite of all that, Mr. Speaker, in spite of all which has been said against us, we are just and fair.
In the administration of the city of Montreal, we have Englishmen, we have Irishmen, we have Jews, we have all kinds of nationalities.
When I came into power, as mayor, two hundred poliqgmen had to be engaged. One of the conditions I imposed was that the policemen should have a knowledge of both languages, not perfectly, but enough, so that when a tourist would ask for some information, these policemen would be able to furnish it, for every one knows that when a stranger visits a city and needs some information, he generally applies to the policemen. They must therefore speak both languages.
Do you know what happened to me?
The first one which I had to swear in, when I asked him if he had paid any money to get his position and put him a few other questions in French, started to cry, saying he could not understand a single word.
You can see in what a plight I was. I thought that if I refused him, I would be charged with discriminating between the English and the French Canadians, so I turned around and said to him: " Here, my boy, go back to the chief, take your uniform, I allow you three months' delay, and you come back to me three months hence to satisfy me that you are able to say a few words in French."
That was three years ago. He never came back to me, but later when I inquired about him from the chief, the latter declared: " He is the best man we have on the force."
A month and a half later, being obliged to swear in a new man, a French Canadian, who could not speak a word of English, I dismissed him, I refused to accept him.
Take our department, for instance; we have many which are split in two, in order to do justice to the English population- In. the Parks department, there are two superintendents. Why? We could get along with only one. It was to be fair to the English speaking population. The Mountain Park superintendent is Mr. Henderson, and the various other parks are under the direction oc Mr. Bernadet. In the various departments, even justice is dealt out.
In every department, we strive to be fair to all. Why do they not act the same way in Ontario? My own opinion is that they deliberately will not do it. Should we not live in harmony and help one another as brothers? Everybody remembers that, some three or four years ago, in a certain city of Ontario, there was only one French Canadian policeman, a Mr. Lambert, and he was discharged.
Mr. Speaker, when the hon. member for Three Rivers (Mr. Bureau) was speaking in this House, two or three days ago, referring to the Prime Minister who wras asking the hon. leader of the Opposition (Sir Wilfrid Laurier) to form a Coalition Cabinet, with . the object of having the French Canadians of the province of Quebec submit to the conscription law, did he not ask the Government to employ five or six of the most influential Ontario men, in travelling over this province and in urging the population to discontinue the campaign of slander and abuse against the province of Quebec? No, I repeat it, as to the animosity which exists between these two provinces, we are i!n no wise responsible, we of the province of Quebec, and we do all that we possibly can to maintain the Bonne Entente.
Bo you want another example? Every one knows that, very recently, a Bonne Entente
delegation came to Montreal and afterwards visited the different other most important towns of the province of Quebec. In Montreal, this delegation was the object of an official reception, and we spared nothing to receive it well. What happened? In a small municipality, it had been thought fit to pass a vote of thanks to the mayor, but the same courtesy was not extended to the mayor of the Canadian metropolis. We have also had. the visit of the Win-tlie-War delegation, the city council voted a sum of $2,500 for the good work undertaken by these gentlemen. Have we not done in Quebec all that we should do?
Now, some aTe surprised that Quebec does not enlist. To show that the hon. Prime Minister has not kept his word, although I must repeat what was said by the hon. leader of the Opposition, I will quote the words he said on January 17, 1917:
" I therefore asked the Prime Minister to positively state whether, yes or no, we would have conscription. Put into such a fix, my right hon. friend replied-here is his answer, when I asked him if his offef of 500,000 soldiers meant conscription, or not:
" My right hon. friend has spoken of conscription, of the idea entertained in this country or elsewhere that conscription might exist in Canada, Speaking during the first two or three months of the war, I have clearly had the Canadian people to understand that we did not intend to establish conscription. I again declare it explicitly."
This is not all, Mr. Speaker. Referring to the law which is now before this House, if we consult " La Presse " of December 7. 1916, we will find the words which were uttered, before an audience of 2,500 to 3,000 people, by the Prime Minister when a reception was given him in the Monument National in Montreal; we will be in a better position to see what kind of a man is the Prime Minister who to-day wants to impose such a brutal law. I understand that in the course of a year, circumstances may be altered; but I will point out that this reception was given on December 7, 1916, not more than six months ago. We shall see what say these so-called democrats who pretend to safeguard the people's interests, but who, in reality, safeguard the interests of the Empire. I will even say that it is we who take the true interests of this country, by supplying the Allies with both ammunitions and food. Here is then what the Prime Minister said:
" Canada is a State in a larger State, which is the Empire. Our country enjoys the benefits of a constitution which was granted
to us fifty years ago, and which was written through the wisdom of the Fathers of the Confederation, men whose names are dear to every Canadian heart, the Macdonalds, the Cartiers, the Browns and the Tuppers.
It is true that there are no more such men on the Government side.
" By keeping within the limits of that Constitution, the people of Canada govern themselves, and every citizen exerts his personal and individual influence, when he is called upon to declare in which way he. intends to be governed."
Is that what the Government is proclaiming to-day? That principle, Mr. Speaker, which was advocated in the Monument National, on December 7, 1916, by the Prime Minister, is the very one which the right hon. leader of the Opposition is putting into practice to-day.
" It is a right established conformably to the principles of every democratic government."
I repeat it, Mr. Speaker, is that what the Government wants to-day? The referendum which we are asking in the name of the whole people of Canada, they want to deny it and to impose an arbitrary law. Is not that exactly the condition as in Germany?
I .say (that it would be ia good thing if the taxpayers of the country had the courage to come up here, in 'Ottawa, and make a clean sweep of the present Government, without injuring them, 'for no one has the night to do that. That is whait should be done with these people who do not respect the Constitution, who do not respect the given word, who indeed; db not respect anything, and here I refer most particularly to those members of the province of Quebec who .are preaching to-day the very contrary of what they preached in 1911. Is this democracy? No., I claim they iare autocrats and nothing else. Can anyone he surprised after all if, today, the province of Quebec turns a deaf ear to the Prime Minister's words?
"But every tight necessarily imposes a corresponding duty. The State .protects the citizens, their person .and their property; it sees to the enforcement of the laws .and to good administration. Every citizen must, therefore, give a certain sum of service to the State, there never has been and perhaps there never will be an occasion to make that duty more imperative, more necessary, than the one now offered.
"For the Belgian land the French, the oo-cupation of the national territory by the foe, the implacable manifestations of his iron hand, the .terror inspired 'by his devastations constitute the most eloquent plea in1 favour
[Mr. M. Martin 1
of .the organizing of the national service for every citizen. To ns, the need seems more distant, but it is not the less real for all that.
That is what the Prime Minister had said *if even, 'at that time, he had said: gentlemen, the circumstances are such 'that they compel ns to .change our minds, Canada is in danger, perhaps oiur own territory miay be 'invaded by the Germans.
No, Mr. Speaker, never will -Canada be invaded by the Germans. We have to protect us the United States, and on the other hand, we have England who will do everything possible to keep us among her colonies because it is 'her own interest to do so.
Here is what was .said by the hon. member for Jaeques-Cartier (Mr. Descarries), in reply to. the speech from His 'Excellency the Governor General (See page 15 House of Commons Debates):
I believe, in any case, Mr. Speaker, and I think I am voicing the opinion of the majority of the hon. members in stating that the constitution of the country forbids sending our soldiers to fight outside of Canada, without special legislation being enacted in this House and that no such legislation altering the very basis of our constitution would be enacted without its being first submitted to the people of Canada. No, Mr. Speaker, there can be no question of conscription. Obligatory enlistment is not needed. The people of Canada have given noble proof of their loyalty. Freely and voluntarily, four hundred thousand men have already answered the call. If they are required, one hundred thousand more will follow of their own free will. And thus the Prime Minister will have given to the Empire and the allied nations a royal and magnificent contribution to restore the peace of the world, which, let us hope, Providence will soon grant to Europe. .
That was on January 18, I believe, ox the 21sit or 22nd. Mr. Speaker, with men who have mo longer any mandate, men who are here only by their own will and by that of the Imperial Government, I say that they hiave not the right, as it .suits their fancy, to fry .and take away the people's liberty, and especially .so, after the .speech .made by the Prime Minister .in the Monument National.
It is said and -repeated that enlisting has not been a success. In Montreal, they put .at the -head of -recruiting, as -stated -by my hon. friend the member for Rouville (Mr. Lemieux) a Protestant -minister, .a perfectly honest man, I .attended the first meeting he held in a theater. The clergy have done all they could. When one considers how the Prime Minister bias -deceived his Grace the Archbishop of Montreal, about the National Service -cards, can one he surprised that no one gives any more credit to the Prime Minister's words? Obviously, th-e people are in-
censed, -tbait their own ATch bishop has mot been respected. I regret to be obliged to say this. I concede ibait -a common individual may make a mistake, but when it as the Prime Minister of Canada who, in the space of five or six months, changes his speech several times on itihe floor of the House. . .
I say that the defeat of that man is not distant. He will perhaps pass the Bill now being considered by this House, there is no doubt it will be adopted by the majority at his back and who do not respect the mandate entrusted to them. I regret to be forced to say this. As stated by the member for Maisonneuve, the workingman is intelligent, buit we have our full measure of ills in Montreal, we don't want any thing of this.
Here is where we are at: we have reached the point of having a Government in no wise responsible, having no longer the right to legislate.
On the second of next month, the fiftieth anniversary of Confederation will he celebrated. It is the end of Confederation that is coming, nothing else, if we continue to insult one another. Most frequently, it is the fault of certain newspapers, in order to make .a few dollars- I say that if such abuse is continued, if this law is passed, you will have, unfortunately, civil war in this country. We have enough war, enough hardships, without having the Government bring about what they are bringing about [DOT]to-day.
The Prime Minister has promised 500,000 men to England. He had no right to do so. He should have, at least, consulted his ministers, he should have, at least, consulted the leader of the Opposition; but no, he leaves, he goes to England, he returns; at a given moment, completely changed, the pledged word is broken, there is no more constitution, the people doesn't count. The people can be deceived once, twice, but the third time, they strike hard.
Mr. Speaker, I rely upon the opinion of ia clear-sighted man, I refer to the greatest Canadian living, after Sir Wilfrid Laurier (Lord Shaughnisssy) a good Irishman, who has received the highest honours which England can -bestow upon one of our own. What did he say, when he returned from England: "That i.f the Government gave
500,000 men, it was calculated to disorganize the country." This interview has been published in the press, therefore I pass over many things. I had promised my hon. friend, the member for Maskinonge (Mr. Bellemare) to speak only ten minutes ; I beg his pardon if I am taking advantage of his
goo-d nature, but I do not want to resume my seat before having added a few more remarks.
We, of the province of Quebec, we believe we can better serve the interests of the Empire and of the Allies by supplying them with ammunitions and foodstuffs. That is what was stated by Lord Shaughnessey, and if there is a man well informed as to our situation from the economical point of view, he is really the one; for me, he is in Canada the man who knows best. He is at the head of a large institution, the Canadian Pacific, which alone is worth more than the city of Montreal, more than the city of Toronto. Here is a peer of England, who comes to us and declares that, in the interest of the Empire, as well as in the future interest of Canada, our duty is neither more nor less, to supply munitions and to feed the soldiers.
The member for Red Deer (Dr. M. Clark) -said the other day that while we were discussing, some one hundred and thirty people bad been killed by German bombs and that victuals and munitions intended for the Allies had been sunk, had been sent to the bottom of the sea.
Now, a conference was held most recently in New York city, between Mr. Emile Level, the representative of France, and Mr. Hoover, -the United States' representative. England's representative, whose name has been mentioned a few minutes ago, did not attend that conference.
Here follows a report of it:
France's envoy demands a billion bushels of grain.
Emile Level exposes to Mr. Hoover the allied nations' as well as the neutrals' needs.
The task of the United States and of Canada. Our own farmers will have to supply a considerable amount of provisions over and above the ordinary production.
Washington, June 2, 1917.-The Allies, as well as the neutral countries, will need a billion bushels of grain during the next twelve months, besides what their respective countries can produce, according to a detailed statement -prepared by Mr. H. C. Hoover, who has been appointed by President Wilson food controller for the United States.
According to Mr. Hoover, the United States and Canada will he called upon to furnish the greater part of this grain which the belligerent and the neutral nations will divide among themselves as follows, always after his own calculations :
Great Britain . . .. 225,000,000
Belgium and Portugal 50,000,000
Neutrals In Europe. 10,000,000 Other neutrals.. .. 5,000,000
Topic: ON DEMANDE.