Mr. White:

No, I am not going to.

1. How many persons were employed in the civil service of Canada on January 1, (a) 1956; (b) 1957; (c) 1958?

2. What is the estimated increase for the year 1958?

Answer by: Hon. Gordon Churchill (Minister

of Trade and Commerce):

1. (a), (b) and (c)

Employees in departmental branches, services and corporations (not including agency and proprietary corporations listed in parts C and D of the Financial Administration Act)

Prevailing Ships' officers Casuals

End of month Salaried rate and crews Total and others iDecember, 1955

142,934 24,070 2,239 169,243 13,079December, 1956

145,815 23,729 2,220 171,764 12,307November, 1957 2

151,758 24,904 2,547 179,209 12,338

(,) Employees whose positions are not established by treasury board. <2>

Latest available.

2. Latest information available is for November 1957.

Mr. While:

Before this item carries I should like to ask a question. It is possible that I may be out of order. I want to know whether it applies to the acquisition of land at London, Ontario, for a postal terminal?

Mr. White:

Mr. Chairman, I too have aword to say along this line. Ever since Ihave been a member of this house I havetried to secure a list of the names of new

Canadians from the crown attorney of the city of London and the Department of Citizenship and Immigration, and only on one occasion was I able to get a complete list of names. On one occasion I asked the crown attorney for the city of London for the list of names and he had the audacity to send me a list containing five names, when there were many more names than that. Reference has been made to co-operation from departments. There was no co-operation forthcoming from that department, but hon. members will note that it did not affect the results of the election as far as the constituency of Middlesex East is concerned.

Mr. While:

That answers the question. That is what he was and is.