In following the fine rousing remarks of the hon. member for Fort William and the equally fine remarks of the hon. member for Trinity-Conception as opposed to the spirit of fatalism and of defeat breathed
by the hon. member for Rosetown-Biggar, it seems to me that it is fitting that just a few more things be said. If we say that we simply cannot win and if we give up, we do not give the Lord a chance to play a part at all. We may not be able to do very much when we start, as was the case in the battle of Britain in world war II, but if we do all that we possibly can and if we rely on the God of battles, we shall have a chance of winning. My feeling is that it is very much the same as we approach this dreadful crisis in world history, the worst the world has ever known.
It seems to me also that we should give a little bit of thought to another matter which was referred to indirectly by the hon. member for Trinity-Conception. I refer to the kind of people we are opposed to. Most people think it is the Russian people we are opposed to. That is the last thing in the world we are opposed to. We are opposed to the group of men who conquered Russia in the so-called revolution back in 1917, who now rule Russia with an iron hand and who intend to extend that sordid rule over all the people of the world. There is no use in talking about coexistence with those people. With them it is all or none. They talk co-existence but it is the last thing they think of.
May I refer to the remarks of three of their leaders. I mention Lenin first. In 1923 Lenin announced to the world-or so it would be announced to the world-that it would be unnecessary to defeat the United States in a military way, that she would fall into their hands like an over-ripe fruit. All that is necessary is that enough people in Canada and the United States speak as did the hon. member for Rosetown-Biggar, and the whole of North America will fall into their hands like an overripe fruit.
The next communist leader who said a most significant thing in this respect was Manuilsky. This man, if I recall it correctly, spoke in 1930. He said this-these are not his exact words; I am not quoting; I am speaking from memory-"We will put on a peace offensive which will surpass anything the world ever saw and when we get them all softened up we will smash them with the iron fist". If the hon. member for Rosetown-Biggar had wanted to play right into Manuilsky's hands or into Lenin's, he could not have done it better.
The next man is Khrushchev. I cannot remember just exactly what it was that Khrushchev said, but fairly recently he made a remark which I have already put on the record in times past and which did not in any way indicate that he had receded from the position of Lenin and Manuilsky but rather that he was following on as a member in the team, aiming to accomplish the thing which 96698-1224
Supply-National Defence the other two had foretold. Let everybody bear in mind this most important matter.
May I repeat once more that we are not fighting the Russians; we are not fighting the Chinese; we are not fighting any of the people who have come under the domination of the so-called communist organization which is another outfit entirely, parading under the mask of communism. We are not fighting the peoples who are their fronts; we are fighting the men hidden behind communism. Let us never forget that fact.
While we are on the subject may I suggest to the Minister of National Defence that, with all the ardour of his being, he impress upon the leaders of the United States, Great Britain and the other NATO nations that if they do not single out those men in their governments who are agents of that group of people who are behind communism it will do no good at all to find out new secrets, because those secrets will be in the hands of Moscow before we ourselves hear about them.
I have taken occasion to refer to this matter two or three times in the house previously. Some people have supposed that there is nothing to what I have said. May I say that it will be a great deal better if they can learn now than at some later time when they will say, "Oh, if I had only known". It could have been known but they were just simply too narrow-minded and blind to listen, so that they could have been told.
May I urge upon the minister that he take the utmost care with regard to this matter. Let me remind him that immediately after the first satellite went up from Russia, Gouzenko who is in a position to know a great deal more about the matter than does anybody in this house or probably anyone else in this country, announced to the people of Canada and the United States, as far as he could cause his voice to be heard, that the Russians had put the first satellite into the air because the secrets which the United States and Canada had discovered had been transmitted to Russia by people imbedded in the administrations of our countries. I saw that statement in at least two papers.
Let me urge the minister,-and I do not think I need to do so
that he pay no attention to those who join in this cry of defeat. He will find plenty of them; he will find pretty nearly every C.C.F. member and every socialist in the country among them. Pay no attention to those people; pay attention to the people who believe in Canada, who believe in the British flag and in the British people, who believe in the future of Christianity and who believe in the future of freedom. He should put everything he has got into his task and, if it becomes
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Supply-National Defence necessary, as indicated by the hon. member for Fort William, at some future time to call a day of national prayer let him not hesitate to do so. As has been so very well stated by Tennyson:
More things are wrought by prayer than this world dreams of.
And I think that there is a statement in the Bible by the Lord saying:
I will yet for this be enquired of by the house of Israel, to do it for them.
That is all I will say on this matter at the present time.
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