This afternoon one or two speeches were made dealing with what the speakers felt was discrimination in connection with promotions in the armed services. If any hon. member wishes to check back, I refer him to page 595 of Hansard where answers are given to some questions that were asked. It would appear that at that time not only was there some discrimination in connection with the matter brought up this afternoon by hon. members across the floor or the suggestion that there was discrimination because of political affiliations or belief, but there was also some discrimination based upon geography or the location of the particular depots.
I checked over these figures, and I found that the ratio of promotions of commissioned ranks to other ranks varied considerably. I found that Pacific command, which is Victoria, showed a ratio of 1 to 11 -7. I thought, with that area being near salt water and the men probably eating a lot of fish, they might have more brains than the men on the prairies. However, when I got down to M.D. No. 3, where there is no salt water, I found the ratio to be 1 to 9-2. Then, when we come to Montreal, M.D. No. 4, we find the ratio is 1 to 9-7. We can work west to Winnipeg where we find that the ratio is 1 to 14-5. We go farther west to Regina and find that the ratio is 1 to 17-4.
It looks to me that the minister has something to explain there, and obviously he will have some kind of explanation to give. But with these figures it will be difficult to explain to the people on the prairies just why they do not have the same ratio of promotions as the other provinces. For the sake of making this available to those members who may be interested and to people outside, I should like to read into the record some figures showing the way in which this works out.
Starting with 'London, which is M.D. No. 1, we find that the total of general service enlisted personnel-this has nothing to do with the N.R.M.A.-all ranks, was 48,250. Of that number, 3,099 were officers and 45,151 other ranks. The ratio there is 1 to 14-5.
In the case of Toronto, M.D. No. 2, the total of general service personnel, all ranks, was 145,583. The total officers were 10,379, and the total of other ranks, 135,204. The ratio in this case wa4 1 to 13.
In the case of Kingston, M.D. No. 3, which comprises the area of Ottawa, where the hon. member for Temiscouata has just told us there are so many brass hats, the total for all ranks was given as 55,495. There were 5,392 officers and 50,103 other ranks, giving a ratio of 1 to 9'2.
In Montreal, M.D. No. 4, the total for all ranks was 72.597. The total for officers was 6,739 and for other ranks, 65,858, giving a ratio of 1 to 9-7.
Quebec, M.D. No. 5: total all ranks, 22,183; total officers, 1,844; total other ranks, 20,339, or a ratio of 1 to 11.
Halifax, M.D. No. 6 and this belies the idea that fish make brains, because all these figures approximate to those of Regina, which is irf the prairie provinces-total, all ranks, 49,487; officers, 2,278; total other ranks, 46,709, or a ratio of 1 to 16-8.
Saint John, M.D. No. 7: total all ranks, 32,268; total officers, 1,912; total other ranks, 30,356, or a ratio of 1 to 15-8. Fish do not do them much good.
Winnipeg, M.D. No. 10: total all ranks, 54,061; total officers, 3,478; total other ranks, 50,583, or a ratio of 1 to 14-5.
Victoria, M.D. No. 11 (Pacific command): total all ranks, 54,746; total officers, 4,291; total other ranks, 50,455, or a ratio of 1 to 11-7.
Regina, M.D. No. 12: total all ranks, 44,684; total officers, 2,426; total other ranks, 42,258, or a ratio of 1 to 17-4.
Calgary, M.D. No. 13: total all ranks, 46,919; total officers, 2,737; total other ranks, 44,182, or a ratio of 1 to 16-1., As they get nearer British Columbia the intelligence quotient apparently goes up.
We also have some from outside Canada. Where they come from is not indicated, presumably from other parts of the world: a total of all ranks, 1,415; officers, 261; total other ranks, 1,154, or a ratio of 1 to 4-4. It is not very flattering to the intelligence quotient of. the whole- Canadian nation, when this latter group have a higher ratio of officers to the total than even the best of our Canadian military districts.
As I say, there was talk this afternoon of discrimination in respect of the language question. Whether it is well founded or not I do not know. There, was talk of discrimination because of political beliefs; that was denied by the Minister of Agriculture. No doubt some reason will be shown for this condition I have mentioned, but it will be difficult, unless the reason is good, to explain to the people of the prairie provinces why they do not have the same ratio of promotions as in M.D. No. 3 around Ottawa, and in Quebec and Victoria.
Topic: DEPARTMENT OF NATIONAL DEFENCE