Walter George PITMAN

PITMAN, Walter George, O.C., O.Ont., B.A., M.A., LL.D.

Parliamentary Career

October 31, 1960 - August 2, 1961
  Peterborough (Ontario)
August 3, 1961 - April 19, 1962
  Peterborough (Ontario)

Most Recent Speeches (Page 2 of 90)

April 13, 1962

Mr. Pitman:

This document must surely be looked upon with approval by Liberals and by members of the New Democratic party. It must be capable of being hung in the homes of all people. It must be capable of being hung in school rooms and looked upon with pride by people belonging to all parties and of all persuasions. I would hope, therefore, that the queen's printer would change the format which has been used.

Some days ago I placed a question on the order paper in relation to the use which is being made of the bill of rights. In one supermarket in Toronto copies were being dispensed as part of a promotion campaign for selling toothpaste. I am not going to blame the government for this, and I am not sure that the format used by the queen's printer was being used in this instance. Surely if we want this document to receive the respect of people of all political persuasions we do

not want the name of any political personage on it. That should be the rule of thumb with regard to all such documents when they are produced at public expense.

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April 13, 1962

Mr. Pitman:

Last night before the committee rose there was some discussion which had to be cut off with regard to the work being done by the queen's printer in connection with the printing and distribution of the Canadian Bill of Rights. We in this party feel that the bill of rights was probably one of the proudest achievements which parliament has been able to carry out over

the past century. However, I think the worst thing which could be done is to associate this achievement with any particular party or prime minister.

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April 11, 1962

How many loans were made under the Small Businesses Loans Act (Bill C-40 of last session) in the year 1961. in the following amounts: (a) up to $500 (b) $500 to $1,000 (c) $1,000 to $5,000 (d) $5,000 to $10,000 (e) $10,000 to $15,000 (f)

$15,000 to $20,000 (g) $20,000 to $25,000?

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April 10, 1962

Mr. Pitman:

I should like to say a few words on this amendment. It seems to me that we have spent a great deal of time in the last few days talking about ownership. The whole tenor of the argument used by the Minister of Justice was that we were seeking to secure information and that as a result of obtaining this information we would be able to ascertain the extent of foreign control over the various business enterprises which we have in Canada. Although this is not the kind of company which would come under the disclosure bill which we have passed, and which this group vigorously opposed at some points, the Minister of Justice indicated nevertheless that this kind of information would be sought from companies which came under other types of legislation, banks, transportation companies and so on. The whole intent was to convince this house that this was an important first step toward understanding the nature of our economy in order that no more foreign control would take place.

I was interested in the argument of the hon. member for Winnipeg North when he said that if we voted for this kind of amendment whereby we tried to determine that Canadian directors would be in control of this particular company this would be a very dangerous thing, because possibly the United

States would demand that the same thing be done. If we follow this argument logically it completely destroys the proposition which the Minister of Justice was putting before us last week during the discussion of the disclosure bill. He gave us to believe that legislation would follow this bill and that once we had determined the extent of this control we would take measures to try to handle it. If we follow the reasoning put forward in the discussion of this bill it negates every concept which the Minister of Justice was putting before us last week.

We are not trying to be perverse in the discussion of this seemingly small and unimportant piece of legislation, in the eyes of many members of the house. We are trying to adopt the principle which this government has placed before us and which we agree with. Our whole attitude toward the disclosure bill was not that this was undesirable in itself but that the bill would not do what it purported to do-that it was not going far enough. Most of the speeches we made during the discussion of that bill in committee were to the effect that we already had a tremendous amount of information from the dominion bureau of statistics as to the extent of foreign control over our enterprises-92 per cent over the rubber industry, 65 per cent in certain areas of secondary manufacturing, and so on. The whole suggestion was that once we had more information under this bill we would do something about it. We said we already had information over some 30 years and unless the government was going to prove by some piece of action that it was going to do something we were unconvinced.

Last year there was a long and rigorous discussion having to do with Aurora pipe lines before it was finally incorporated, and we tried to encourage Canadian ownership and Canadian directors there. I wonder if the hon. member for Winnipeg North would be willing to accept another kind of amendment, an amendment which stated that the majority of the directors of the Brock Acceptance Company should be Canadian. This, surely, is not one which could possibly be looked upon with disfavour by anyone. We in this comer believe implicitly in what the hon. member said, that this is a respectable and forwardlooking group in Winnipeg which is going to do something for the financial stature of that community. We accept this. But surely he would not be unwilling to agree that the majority of the directors of the firm should be Canadians.

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April 9, 1962

1. How many unemployed persons were taking training under schedule M to the agreements under the Technical and Vocational Training Assistance Act in Canada in each month during the year 1981?

2. How many unemployed were taking training thereunder in Ontario in each month during the year 1961?

Answer by: Mr. Thrasher:

Mr. Speaker, the answers to the two parts of this question, in tabulated form, are as follows:

1. Number of persons given training each month for the period January 1, 1961 to December 31, 1961

Month No.

January 2,535

February 3,093

March 4,151

April 3,297

May 2,894

June 2,830

July 2,964

August 3,259

September 3,958

October 4,130

November 4,762

December 4,789

2. Number of persons given training in the province of Ontario for the period January 1, 1961 to December 31, 1961

Month No.

January 140

February 269

March 420

April 531

May 661

June 888

July 1,269

August 1,287

September 1,524

October 1,491

November 1,650

December 1,558

These figures represent the total numbers receiving training during the month and not new enrolments for each month.

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