He did not. He hinted at what he thought had been told by a another man who, he said, occupied a seat in this House, but he did not make a charge. And no man sitting to your left, Mr. Speaker, has dared, since 1896, to make a charge against any hon. member of this government, present or past.
So far as the remarks relating to the Grand Trunk Pacific are concerned, I am sure that I never heard of any Conservative in Manitoba opposing the building of that road. Though they spoke of it as an enormous cost to the people, they were afraid to say-at least they did not say-that they were opposed to the building of the road. They did not care apparently what it cost so long as they could convince the people that they were in sympathy with the building of the road and that the road would be built. And I think that in that they took proper ground. I think that their constituents, whether they ever return them to this House again or not, will appreciate their action in relation to the Transcontinental. There are few men west of the lakes, whether Liberal or Conservative, who will oppose the building of the Transcontinental. Liberals would not be here if they opposed it, and some Conservatives who are here would never have had seats in this House had they dared to oppose, even in the most feeble way, the building of this road.
As regards the remarks oi the hon. member for Dauphin (Mr. Campbell) regarding the tariff question, I am sorry for him. He is the only one, however, west of the lake who bears the name of Conservative, who dared to get up in his place in this House and say he was a protectionist. He said it out and out, and in a manly way, and I give the member for Dauphin credit for that. But I must say this, that I believe he has made a mistake, and the proof of that will appear when he appeals to his constituents again. But that of course is his own business. I am glad from a party point of view that he made the statement, because I believe it will be his undoing. Personally I am sorry for him. The hon. member for Macdonald (Mr. Staples) did not state that he was a protectionist, not yet; nor did the hon. member for Souris (Mr. Schaffner) state that he was a protectionist, although he did move a resolution asking this government to reduce the tariff on implements from 17J to 10 per cent. But the people of Manitoba have a pretty good idea of the stand the Conservative party takes on the tariff. I am free to state the stand I take on the tariff, regardless of who is in power, regardless of the fact that I am a supporter of the Liberal government. I say here that I would not support an in-160S
crease in the tariff. It is wrong from a western point of view. 1 believe the consumer pays the duty, and I believe the consumer west of the lakes has a greater need of a reduction in the tariff than he has of an increase in the tariff, so far as the necessaries of life are concerned. Therefore I will not support any increase in the tariff, I do not care whether a Liberal or a Conservative government is in power.
Topic: WAYS AND MEANS-THE BUDGET.
Subtopic: W. H. PRINCE, JAS. WILLIAMS,