David Wesley BOLE

BOLE, David Wesley

Personal Data

Winnipeg (Manitoba)
Birth Date
February 15, 1856
Deceased Date
June 24, 1933
newspaper editor, pharmacist

Parliamentary Career

November 3, 1904 - September 17, 1908
  Winnipeg (Manitoba)

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May 6, 1908


ties and signed by the applicant for naturalization, the papers had been improperly filled in and a number of the parties referred to paragraph 7 hereof, in my presence did destroy the napers so signed by applicants for naturalization and made out new ones in lieu thereof and signed the names of the applicants^ for naturalization to the oaths therein contained, and the said last-mentioned papers were then completed by the said Thomas Jestremski in the same manner as is set out in naragraph 9 hereof.

12. The only commissioner present at the time and place referred to in paragraph 7 hereof, was Thomas Jestremski, and it was necessary in order to complete the naturalization papers for the 450 applicants, more or less, above referred to, for the said Thomas Jestremski to sign his name some twelve or fifteen hundred times, more or less, and the said Thomas Jestremski complained from time to time towards the latter part of the session in question of fatigue and complained that he was too tired of writing to complete all the papers. To overcome this the said Jestremski told others of the parties referred to in paragraph 7 hereof, to sign the names of the said Jestremski to a number of the papers which were being made out as aforesaid, and the same were signed accordingly.

13. I am personally acquainted with Mr. Irving, an employee in the Department of the Attorney General for the province of Manitoba.

14. The naturalization papers for the 450 men, more or less, bad, prior to the third day of February, 1907, on several occasions been the subject of conversation between Irving and me, this deponent. On the occasion of the conversations aforesaid between myself and the said Irving the said Irving had particularly impressed upon me the necessity of dating the said naturalization papers back to a date early in January, 1907, giving as his reason therefor, that the said papers were required by law to be ou file in the county court of Winnipeg for at least three weeks prior to the fourth day of February, 1907, in order that the certificate of naturalization might on the last-mentioned date he issued to the said parties respectively, but stated that if the papers were regular on the face of them he could get them through in a few days without any notice.

15. On the occasion of my conversation with the said Irving the said Irving repeatedly told me that if the said naturalization papers were dated as aforesaid, he, the said Irving, was able to get the said papers through the county court of Winnipeg on four days notice.

16. Instructions were, to- my personal knowledge, given to the effect that the 450 sets of naturalization papers above referred to should be delivered on the morning of Monday, February 4, to Mr. Irving of the Attorney General's Department in order that the said Irving might get the certificates of naturalization for the said parties through the county court of Winnipeg on the said February 4, 1907.

17. I personally counted the sets of naturalization papers so delivered to the said Irving and the same numbered 450, more or less, and

were delivered along with 125, more or less, other sets of naturalization papers to the said Irving as I am informed and verily believe, on the said February 4, 1907.

18. Between February 4, 1907, and the 12th day of the same month the certificates of naturalization for the 450 men, more or less, above referred to, were delivered to me personally by the said Irving at the office of the Conservative club in the Maw block aforesaid, and I am personally aware that a greater number of the said 450 were subsequently registered as electors on the lists of the electors compiled in the various constituencies in the city of Winnipeg.

Sworn before me at the city of Winnipeg, in the province of Manitoba, March 21, in the year of our Lord, 1907.

(Signed) E. T. HTTGGAKD,

A commissioner, &c., &c., in B.E.


Province of Manitoba, to wit:

L. Joseph Szymanski of 177 Syndicate street of Winnipeg, carpenter, make oath and say as follows:

On the 30th and 31st days of January and the 1st and 2nd days of February, 1907, I was working for Joseph Makarski and T. Jes-tremski securing the names of parties who were not already naturalized. I was told by these men to simply get. their names. I was to bring them to the Conservative club rooms in the Maw block in the city of Winnipeg. I secured 80 names and handed the same over to Tlieo. Rudneski in the said club rooms. I simply took the names and addresses on a sheet of paper.

Mr. Rudneski then informed me that in a few days he would give me the certificates of naturalization, and on Friday the 8th day of February, 1907, the said certificates of naturalization for the parties whose names I had handed in were handed to me by Mr. Rudneski.

I had these naturalization certificates with me on the days of registration, and after the parties had registered I handed them their certificates of naturalization.

I remember on the 7th day of March, the election day, and on the Sunday prior to the 7th day of March there were delivered to me at my house by Jos. Makarki and Theo. Jes-tremski three kegs of beer in a sleigh, and when they gave the same to me they told me to give this beer to parties who would vote for Mitchell. On Wednesday, March 6th, the same parties brought two more kegs of beer and told me to treat the parties who were voting for Mitchell.

I leave a clause out of this affidavit referring to the distribution which is not relevant to the case.

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May 6, 1908


No. In the Dominion Franchise Act, I understand, there is a provision that in the event of any legislature discriminating against any class, that class can vote under oath. It was the intention of the Liberal party-and I am one of the guilty parties-to vote the Galicians under that provision, but the legislature of the province of Manitoba, anticipating that Act, struck out the educational clause of the Hugh John Macdonald Election Act. But when they came to make provision for the registration of the Galicians, who were scattered here and there over the province in groups, they placed the registration booths at such a great distance from the Galician colonies, and kept them open so short a time, that these people were practically disfranchised.

Now, the hon. leader of the opposition in his speech yesterday made some statements which I am going to quote. On page 8119 of ' Hansard ' I find the following :

I would like to remark once more that no unfairness in making the lists for any province has been brought to the attention of the House except in the statement of the Minister of Justice based upon a hypothesis which he has not been able to prove. It has been stated to me that the Prime Minister of Manitoba has challenged, both inside and outside the legislature, his political opponents or any

person within the province to bring to his attention the case of any man who has been unfairly deprived of his franchise in that province.

On page 8121 I find the following from the same hon. gentleman :

I would like my hon. friends opposite to give some names, any instance in Manitoba or in British Columbia which would justify the interposition of this parliament.

On jiage 8123 I find the following :

Show me, in the first place, the wrong that has taken place under that Manitoba Act.

And then on page 8150, in the speech of the hon. member for Prince Edward (Mr. Alcorn), I find the following :

And Hon. Robert Rogers, also a member of the Manitoba government has issued a challenge which has never been taken up, that, if in one authentic case it could be shown that even one man had lost the franchise through the wanton or wilful act of an officer of the government, every seat in the province would be allowed to go by acclamation to the Reform candidate in the next election.

Now, Mr. Speaker, it becomes my very unpleasant duty to lay before the House some evidence with respect to these things. The hon. gentlemen have issued a challenge and I am going to accept and respond to that challenge. I do so only with respect to my own constituency. I would very much prefer that some other member would perform this unpleasant duty, but as the incident which I am about to relate occurred in my own constituency, and the evidence respecting the same was submitted to me, it becomes my duty to present that evidence to the House, to show, not only that one man has been deprived of his right to vote under the Act of the province of Manitoba, but that no less than 450 good citizens in one provincial constituency, namely, about one-fortieth of the province, have had their votes nullified by 450 names being placed upon the voters' list by means of fraud, forgery, perjury and impersonation. I will now read some affidavits which have been made by people who are personally interested.

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May 6, 1908



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It may be, but all these Acts are in the statutes and can be hunted up and read without spreading them on 35 pages of ' Hansard.' Neither will I attempt to discuss the thin-red-line scandal which has been paraded not only before this House but up and down the country and spread on the newspapers of the country for the last four years. I think I am right when I state that the thin-red-line campaign has complet-ly collapsed in this debate. It does appear to me to be very strange indeed that gentlemen occupying very important positions in connection with the Conservative party, after making such a campaign on this thin-red-line, should have utterly abandoned it in the speeches which were delivered by the hon. the leader of the opposition (Mr. R. L. Borden) and the hon. member for Prince Edward county (Mr. Alcorn).

Neither will I make any serious attempt to show the necessity of clause 1 of the Bill, which is now before the House for consideration. The Minister of Justice (Mr. Aylesworth) performed tnat duty so successfully, so exhaustively and so completely, that it does appear to me that there is nothing left for either side of the House to state with respect to that clause. There is, however, one feature of the Bill which has not been brought to the attention of the House by the Minister of Justice, perhaps because he does not feel in respect to that feature as I do, and perhaps because I stand alone ; but my feeling has always been that in a growing country like the province of Manitoba there should be only one revision of the voters' lists and that immediately preceding an election. We have in the province of Manitoba and other western provinces a great many people coming from the province of Ontario, the maritime provinces and the province of Quebec, who are good citizens of the Dominion of Canada and who have a perfect right, in my judgment, to reflect their opinion on political matters when an election comes around. I think also that the one year provision with respect to residents should sufficiently qualify an Englishman, a British subject coming from England, to become an elector in the province of Manitoba. The naturalization laws are sufficient, I think, to protect the native-born people and the Canadian citizens from undue influence from alien quarters.

Another objection that we feel in the province of Manitoba with respect to these annual personal revisions of the lists and registration, is the tremendous expense involved. It is simply impossible for either party to secure a completed list in the province of British Columbia or Manitoba without of a very large annual expenditure, and l have thought that when all purposes will

be properly served by a revision immediately before an election, this will be the best course.

The Minister of Justice stated yesterday that the province of Manitoba anticipated an election by certain legislation in 1906. He did not put it in that way but that is the meaning I got from it. It is not the only occasion on which the legislature of the province of Manitoba anticipated a Dominion election by legislation. Mr. Hugh John Macdonald, during the short period of his premiership of the province of Manitoba, I think in 1900, passed a Franchise Act in many respects containing a good deal of merit. It provided, among other things, an educational qualification. No man was allowed to vote under that Act unless he was able to read or write in one of five languages, English, French, German, Scandinavian, or Icelandic. Under that condition and under that clause of the Act, no matter how well a Galician was educated in his own language, it was impossible for him to vote. The result was that a Galician, no matter how well educated he was in his own language, was not able to qualify himself for the franchise unless he was able to establish that right in one of these five languages.

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May 6, 1908

Mr. DAVID W. BOLE (Winnipeg).

Mr. Speaker, it is not my intention to attempt to controvert the speech delivered by the hon. member for Prince Edward county (Mr. Alcorn) last night. I sat attentively for two and a quarter hours, listening to the speech of the hon, gentleman, and I must state, without any intention of offence, that the speech did not contain very much that can be answered.

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